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| Quote: Mild Rover "Leeds-London in ‘99 - although if we take into account the move from 3-point to 4-point tries, you have to skip forward another 16 years to a record that might well endure even longer. I hope it does tbh - the biggest home defeat and lead surrendered in SL, i’d happily hand over, but I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. The balm for that one would be getting back and winning it or at very least losing ‘normally’ with a creditable performance.
As we’re indulging in masochism, what would be your stand-out shocking result, irrespective of margin of defeat?'"
10-5 over and out buddy, that took about thirty odd years of anti depressants
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Leeds-London in ‘99 - although if we take into account the move from 3-point to 4-point tries, you have to skip forward another 16 years to a record that might well endure even longer. I hope it does tbh - the biggest home defeat and lead surrendered in SL, i’d happily hand over, but I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. The balm for that one would be getting back and winning it or at very least losing ‘normally’ with a creditable performance.
As we’re indulging in masochism, what would be your stand-out shocking result, irrespective of margin of defeat?'"
Featherstone at Wembley!!!! For some reason, I thought it was 14-12 to Hull, probably copiuos amounts of beer!!! Shock horror and various expletives, when I realised it was the winning penalty by Quin and not a replay which I was convinced we’d win. That beer eh, gets you into all sorts of bother but luckily, you don’t usually remember
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| Quote: Freddie Miller. "On the subject of record defeats, a depleted Hull team and Wakefield Trinity takes me back to Wembley 1960 when Trinity hammered us in the CC final. It became a record winning score and margin in a final in that cup's history. Also the first try by Wakefield remains the fastest ever scored in the CC final.
I believe at least a couple or so besides me on here witnessed that disappointment.
A not so easy question. In what year was our margin of defeat beaten in the CC final?'"
IIRC Wakey scoring a try was on opening credits for Saturday afternoon BBC 'Grandstand' for years! My late dad used to go barmy
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| Quote: Kenty "IIRC Wakey scoring a try was on opening credits for Saturday afternoon BBC 'Grandstand' for years! My late dad used to go barmy'"
Kenty, thought it was Tommy Harris, I weren’t very old then, maybe I have it wrong
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| Quote: Kenty "IIRC Wakey scoring a try was on opening credits for Saturday afternoon BBC 'Grandstand' for years! My late dad used to go barmy'" Don't know why, it was Tommy Finn scoring !!!
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| Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "Lol we faired a lot better now the cup finals in August, there’s another in May which is now fading with memory, “honestly”'"
As shock results go, the loss to Fev is the biggest. We were possibly the shorted odds favourites for years to win the cup that day. I started going to rugby when in 1981, so the '80 final was something I watched on TV at the time but I cannot claim to have been an ardent fan at the time. That rovers won (when looking at form of that time) was not so much a shock result.
If we put the shoe on the other foot, shock wins which stick out in the memory would be
March 1988 - Hull 18 v Wigan 12 (McCaffrey's last minutes beauty)
April 1988 hull kr 14 v Hull 21 (2 day after the cup semi replay defeat to Fax, a knackered Hull team (minus our imports in Scott Gale, David Brooks and Terry Regan) take the good Friday derby.
January 1989, Wigan 20 v Hull 35 (Brian Smiths side dominated wigan on their own patch)
April 2004, Bradford 18 v Hull 26 (4 tries for Briscoe at the home of the rampant Bulls)
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| Quote: norbellini "Aye i was there .Watching em drag Tommy Harris of the pitch Wakey really marked him out as the danger man
Ps freddie check your messages thanks'"
Sorry.Been on here for years and have never used the PM system. Found your message from the 7th July and will reply today.
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| Quote: ccs "Don't know why, it was Tommy Finn scoring !!!'"
Tommy Finn scored our only try the year before against Wigan. Try scorer in the '60 final against Wakefield was centre Stan Cowan.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Leeds-London in ‘99 - although if we take into account the move from 3-point to 4-point tries, you have to skip forward another 16 years to a record that might well endure even longer. I hope it does tbh - the biggest home defeat and lead surrendered in SL, i’d happily hand over, but I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. The balm for that one would be getting back and winning it or at very least losing ‘normally’ with a creditable performance.
As we’re indulging in masochism, what would be your stand-out shocking result, irrespective of margin of defeat?'"
Well done- you are spot on.
Continuing on with the masochistic theme my stand-out shock result was the previous year's CC final against Wigan in 1959.
I was living that year in Hull (left permanently after) and went to every round including a replay win away at Wakefield and beat you in the quarter final. We breezed through the semi while Wigan scraped past Leigh in the semi (5-0 I think).
Billed as a battle between the great Hull pack with Whiteley, Harris, Scott plus the Drake twins and the great Wigan back line with Boston, Ashton,Sullivan and Bolton, it was a no contest with us taking a hammering 30-13.
Our pack failed to fire on the day and was comfortably dominated by the Wigan outfit with forward Brian McTigue the MOM. Bolton was enormous at stand off. The margin of the loss together with the Hull pack sub par performance was a shock as was the Wigan dominance and ranked as one the best Wigan teams I have ever seen.
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| Much more recent, but in terms of shocking in the sense of terrible the 2016 MPG stands out. However, that season had left me at such a low ebb that it wasn't remotely surprising. Even the last few minutes, I felt like I was watching it from a distance, resignedly. I do think it shocked the club, at all levels, into a strong response though - I left feeling very much that 'I aren't having that!', and I don't think I was alone.
For shocking, as it nasty surprise - the Oldham cup defeat earlier that year has to be up there. Lower division teams beating SL opposition is rare but when it happens it is usually the top teams from the second tier pulling off the shock. Swinton beat Hudds the next year, of course, although i thinks Hudds were missing a few.
On happy surprises, beating Wigan and Leeds in successive games early in 2007 was pretty dizzying. Although the 6-42 game is better remembered, our first SL derby win in Cardiff ended a 7-game losing streak.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Much more recent, but in terms of shocking in the sense of terrible the 2016 MPG stands out.'"
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any fan of any club who wasn't shocked by the final 2 minutes of that game. There isn't a chance in hell anyone would've predicted that but I have to say, the way KR dealt with the year away from SL was exemplary and whilst being in the middle eights again is a blow, you must be far more confident in securing the SL position outright.
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| Maybe a few of us will remember a game on the Boulevard, we were at half time 26-0 up against Swinton. It seemed after our coach at the time Len Casey delivered his half time speech it did the trick “for Swinton” they beat us 26-28 or some similar shock score line.
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| Quote: Karen "I think you'd be hard pressed to find any fan of any club who wasn't shocked by the final 2 minutes of that game. There isn't a chance in hell anyone would've predicted that but I have to say, the way KR dealt with the year away from SL was exemplary and whilst being in the middle eights again is a blow, you must be far more confident in securing the SL position outright.'"
You wouldn’t have predicted it, but weirdly it had a sense of inevitability to it as it unfolded. For me at least.
We’ve made the tackle, we just need to hold the man down and concede the penalty... but we won’t.
Now we just need Bentham to see that forward pass... but he won’t.
Now if we could just win the toss... but we won’t.
Sickening.
This time, I feel like ‘we’ have done our best. Anything can happen in the 8s, and going down again would be hugely disappointing and probably more damaging. But if you fail having given it your best shot, there’s not that same sense of gnawing regret.
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| You won't go down - Salford and Widnes are far worse than you guys
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "You won't go down - Salford and Widnes are far worse than you guys'"
I wish your judgement were the deciding factor.
We were better than Hudds over 23 rounds and better than Salford over 7, in 2016.
For a team in the middle 8s we're in a pretty good place currently, IMO. But in such a short series of games with little room for error, it doesn't take much to land you in the poop!
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