Griffin is rubbish and Roby is miles better than Houghton. Houghton is that good he didn’t get in the England squad very overrated player. You’ll probably be one of our easier games, we’ll beat you fairly comfortably. Nothing to worry about in your team, you couldn’t beat Salford, very predictable 5 drives up the middle then a high bomb.

A sniff of the thin oxygen at the top of the table is sending you lot daft, nay delusional, Houghton is the equal of Roby, just does the job subtly different. Next you'll be saying Barba is world class and on a par with Lyons and Meninga ...oh wait your lot already have!
last season he was rubbish, this seasons he's doing well in a very good saints outfit, it's a bit like saying that turncoat Castleford winger was the standout player in 2016. He's not a standout when the team isn't doing well, that's Roby.

And in any case a crack head like him shouldn't even be playing in this country, it's a disgrace he even got a visa. He'll be gone soon enough and then Hemmings can stop with the crusty sock over him

Houghton overated, don't talk daft. Cocky saints are back, been missing for two years. I expect you to win, you could even win comfy, you are playing well, but so did Cas last year and Warrington the year before, you are certainly beatable just as Leeds with half there team out showed.

I see your point about Litten, but Houghton is fresh and will more than likely play the 80, so Washy offers utility, I think Litten will start getting more gametime next year though.

Griffin who has been excellent should start on the wing, too much of a risk in the backrow where he is untested. Logan unlucky not to get more gametime this year, I'm sure his chance will come

I wouldn't take the baiting of AS108, most saints fans are expecting a tough game but are expecting Barba to be the difference between the 2 sides. Hope there a lot of Hull Fans coming over.

Yeah you have a great record against us in the last few years

Scousers are hilarious

I think the saints pitch being like a ploughed field will benefit the home side

Mainly because I think Houghton is our best hooker by a distance and we'll be better served by having on the pitch for 80 mins.

If Radders is intending to spell Houghton then I'd go with Litten over Washbrook.

Yes, because a bad pitch does benefit the side who actually want to play rugby instead of 5 drives down the middle.

No they don’t, Hull have been bang average so far and got thumped by Salford which is pretty embarrassing considering how bad they are. We were terrible last season and ended up finishing 2 points behind Hull. If anything they’ve weakened with the loss of Fonua and we are far better than last year. I expect us to win and fairly comfortably on Friday, as their results suggest they’re a bang average side who just try to physically overpower the opposition.

Bookmarking the shizzle out of this thread. Also, using England caps to determine the relevant qualities of Roby and Houghton is poor, as you could use that to say that Ryan Bailey is a better prop than Scott Taylor or Matty Smith is better than Sneyd

Ryan Bailey is definitely better than Luke Thompson. No argument whatsoever.