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| Quote: bonaire "Well thankfully he called the Clubb no try correctly by saying there was no clear pulling action on the ball by Tuimavave.
I would argue some video refs would have awarded that try even though the referee quite rightly said no try.'"
I agree was the correct decision. But is it our black and white tinted glasses or what! Really surprised that all commentary thought it should of been a try, and every other person i speak to does (non hull supporters) Just dont see it at all, in that position he should of really been keeping hold of that ball, no obvious pulling the ball out, lose carry for me, correct decision
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| Thought masi might have been in the squad. As all our props had a hard match on sat. Getting exited already for Thurs. Coyh
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| All very light workouts right up to KO. Hope the batteries can get charged up enough to last the 80. We will be fired up for this and targetting a win.
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "I agree was the correct decision. But is it our black and white tinted glasses or what! Really surprised that all commentary thought it should of been a try, and every other person i speak to does (non hull supporters) Just dont see it at all, in that position he should of really been keeping hold of that ball, no obvious pulling the ball out, lose carry for me, correct decision'"
My hubby commentated on Radio Yorkshire on Saturday and said live that it was a loose carry. Then again, he's as anti Wigan as me so that's probably not the best example!
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| Quote: Karen "My hubby commentated on Radio Yorkshire on Saturday and said live that it was a loose carry. Then again, he's as anti Wigan as me so that's probably not the best example!
I'm as passionate as any FC fan, but pride myself on being able to look at incidents objectively. I was shocked at the BBC pundits (and many other people since) saying that it should have been a try. No matter what team and what opponents, that was NEVER a strip of the ball!
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| Quote: Homenaway "I'm as passionate as any FC fan, but pride myself on being able to look at incidents objectively. I was shocked at the BBC pundits (and many other people since) saying that it should have been a try. No matter what team and what opponents, that was NEVER a strip of the ball!'"
How I saw it too. Clubb loses possession in the act of rolling over and to suggest that Carlos was even aware of the ball being there is absurd.
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| Exactly. Carlos held the ball up like any player would in that position. It was Clubb twisting and the ball being clamped by Carlos to avoid it being put down from the initial attempt, that pulled the ball free.
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| My view was clubb starts to lose control just as Carlos tries to wrap the ball up
Correct decision
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| Carlos had his arm round the ball to prevent it from being grounded. Clubb tried to spin, Carlos kept his hand on the ball as you would expect, and Clubb lost hold of it. It wasn't a strip. If Clubb had just remained on his back the ball wouldn't have come out and it would have just been back to the 10 for a play the ball. No brainer and I can't believe that every so called pundit in the studio thought it was a try.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Carlos had his arm round the ball to prevent it from being grounded. Clubb tried to spin, Carlos kept his hand on the ball as you would expect, and Clubb lost hold of it. It wasn't a strip. If Clubb had just remained on his back the ball wouldn't have come out and it would have just been back to the 10 for a play the ball. No brainer and I can't believe that every so called pundit in the studio thought it was a try.'"
Totally agree with this (& the posts above).
There wasn't a "reefing" motion from Carlos to dispossess Clubb, it was an effort from Carlos to control the ball/ball carrying arm in the tackle, and the ball became dislodged when Clubb tried to roll over to ground it.
There's no law that I'm aware of that says a defender cannot have their arm/hand on the ball, or have their arm/hand between the attackers body & the ball. To be honest, the whole debate over it discredits what was a very good, try saving, possibly cup-winning tackle from Carlos.
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| Yep, in fact the only person I have heard give credit to Carlos (although he still thought it was a try) is Wilkin.
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| whatever the rights or wrongs of the 2 disallowed tries,wigan should never have been in a position to score their final try,wigan players foot on dead ball line as he picked ball up.should have been a drop out.whatever we won,on to the next match.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Carlos had his arm round the ball to prevent it from being grounded. Clubb tried to spin, Carlos kept his hand on the ball as you would expect, and Clubb lost hold of it. It wasn't a strip. If Clubb had just remained on his back the ball wouldn't have come out and it would have just been back to the 10 for a play the ball. No brainer and I can't believe that every so called pundit in the studio thought it was a try.'"
Apparently even Radford said it was a try. He had a player mic on
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| The history books already show that it wasn't a try. Hull beat Wigan 18-14 and retained the Cup.
Now if we win the next six games, we'll also be Grand Final and Double Winners, with a tilt at the World Club Championship early next year.
So we go to Leeds and we go again.....
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| Quote: Homenaway "I'm as passionate as any FC fan, but pride myself on being able to look at incidents objectively. I was shocked at the BBC pundits (and many other people since) saying that it should have been a try. No matter what team and what opponents, that was NEVER a strip of the ball!'"
As a neutral I agree with the view on here of no try. You see these every week (not always near the try line) and they're given as a loose carry. The term "loose carry" is a bit harsh but the responsibility of the ball carrier to keep hold under pressure.
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