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Quote: Dave K. "Luckily the bottom 4 threats keep losing, probably need two wins, although at the moment it's hard to see where they will come, got to go all out on Monday now.

Certainly won't be anywhere near the top 4.'"

Exactly, couple more wins required but where from?

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Quote: Dave K. "Luckily the bottom 4 threats keep losing, probably need two wins, although at the moment it's hard to see where they will come, got to go all out on Monday now.

Certainly won't be anywhere near the top 4.'"


We're 4th, 5 points from the top with 30 still to play for. Let's not panic just yet.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Exactly, couple more wins required but where from?'"


Realistically we will be ok, form changes fast and we will win a couple of games, Even if we lose every games, I'm not sure Hudds or Cats can win 4/5 games.

The question is, is finishing no where near the top 4 good enough and what do we do about it.

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hudds wakey at home, cats mon, wigan home, we can win 2 out of them,

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Quote: oooh Gravy! "We're 4th, 5 points from the top with 30 still to play for. Let's not panic just yet.'"


I think it's a good time to panic, without Kelly we would be in the bottom 4 IMO

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Quote: Dave K. "I think it's a good time to panic, without Kelly we would be in the bottom 4 IMO'"


But we've got Kelly

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I've said on here before that we seem to have mentally 'checked out'
since the CC win
Cue on the rack
Whatever you want to call it
Our Defence is in the last 6 weeks is the worst in the league surely
Defence says all you need to know about any team

We need a catalyst - anything - something

Who or what will provide it ?

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cert gone of the boil

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Quote: oooh Gravy! "Bit on the dramatic side this thread. We had two shocking results a month ago and turned it around. The league is unpredictable, wins come from unlikely places, just ask Leigh.'"


If i'd posted this thread the cuddle crews keyboards would be clattering away in condemnation!

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Quote: oooh Gravy! "But we've got Kelly'"


And still losing, he can't do it on his own, which he nearly need tonigh, been watched more and we seem to have no plan B.

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Quote: Tarquin Fuego "I've said on here before that we seem to have mentally 'checked out'
since the CC win
Cue on the rack
Whatever you want to call it
Our Defence is in the last 6 weeks is the worst in the league surely
Defence says all you need to know about any team

We need a catalyst - anything - something

Who or what will provide it ?'"


I think its more a combination of more injuries (and players playing half-fit to cover) and losing Talanoa and Fonua with no big wingers as backup completely alters our style as Radford likes them to drive the ball up like two addtional props.

Still a few players not delivering though, Griffin has been a very poor signing, cant tackle, not that quick, but isnt full of flair either. A big step down on Yeaman in his prime and even Yeaman in his return to form last season.

Sneyd isnt playing well, when we need him to control a game. I have started to agree with Schofield that he doesnt take the line on enough, just passes a good 5 meters from the line and doesnt draw the defender in.

Still time to get out of this rut though, but as we learnt in 2015 even just scraping in to 8th isnt great as you end up with a dead rubber summer of pointless games.

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Quote: UllFC "I think its more a combination of more injuries (and players playing half-fit to cover) and losing Talanoa and Fonua with no big wingers as backup completely alters our style as Radford likes them to drive the ball up like two addtional props.

Still a few players not delivering though, Griffin has been a very poor signing, cant tackle, not that quick, but isnt full of flair either. A big step down on Yeaman in his prime and even Yeaman in his return to form last season.

Sneyd isnt playing well, when we need him to control a game. I have started to agree with Schofield that he doesnt take the line on enough, just passes a good 5 meters from the line and doesnt draw the defender in.

Still time to get out of this rut though, but as we learnt in 2015 even just scraping in to 8th isnt great as you end up with a dead rubber summer of pointless games.'"


I think a spell without Sneyd will do us good, kicking has been off (probably the injury) and his passing has been awful.

At the moment Connor and Kelly will offer more threat and hopefully they will play together on Monday.

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Given our rubbish home form maybe fifth would be better than fourth at the split.

Currently W4 L4 at home, W5 D1 L0 away (not counting the neutral Magic fixture). In fact since the start of 2016 we have a home record of W13 L10 and an away record of W15 D1 L4. Quite astonishing really.

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I don't know about a plan B,a plan A would help.Felt sorry for young Rawsthorne tonight,no help from his inside player,get Yeaman back

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Quote: UllFC "I think its more a combination of more injuries (and players playing half-fit to cover) and losing Talanoa and Fonua with no big wingers as backup completely alters our style as Radford likes them to drive the ball up like two addtional props.

Still a few players not delivering though, Griffin has been a very poor signing, cant tackle, not that quick, but isnt full of flair either. A big step down on Yeaman in his prime and even Yeaman in his return to form last season.

Sneyd isnt playing well, when we need him to control a game. I have started to agree with Schofield that he doesnt take the line on enough, just passes a good 5 meters from the line and doesnt draw the defender in.

Still time to get out of this rut though, but as we learnt in 2015 even just scraping in to 8th isnt great as you end up with a dead rubber summer of pointless games.'"


I certainly don't agree with the injuries excuse.
Injuries should not affect the mental state and tempo of a team.
Wigan for example love them or loathe them, regardless of the personnel on the field will always play an aggressive up tempo style of rugby.
They may lose but mental attitude remains unaffected.
That comes from the guy at the top.

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