You might be [irisking[/i a red, because reffing in SL is pretty random. But you said that it [iprobably should[/i have been a red. Different thing altogether.

Not sure how accidental it is tbh, if you watch Ellis he's looking at Simon all the way into it. Ellis track record shows he's no thug, but he's copped him sweet there.

He's looking at Simon because he intends to tackle him and stifle the potential offload. Making contact with his head is, IMO, accidental.

He'll get a game. N probably should. Arm swings from far back into man's head. Man goes off with nose spread about face. Not a great deal of argument imo

I think he probably should have been sent from the field, yes. It's careless contact with the head from a strike, which is a red card offence. I think he will get Grade B, and get 2 matches, if he'd have been sent off Grade B, 1 match. Just my opinion.

The worst case scenario is that the disciplinary committee class it as reckless and upgrade to C, which is 3 matches, but I don't think you can class that as reckless.

Of course, we haven't seen the other challenge which is suppose to be as bad, if not worst.

Well aren't you a clever boy then.

No one but Ellis knows his intention but you certainly don't try to stiffle an off load with a straight arm. Unfortunately it's a facet I've seen creeping into Ellis's game as he tries to exert maximun force into collision.

And just because fans of Hull or Wakefield disagree with you (yes people don't have to agree to the world according to kosh you know)
Doesn't make their opinion any less valid then yours or wrong.
Try dealing with that instead of being condescending or insulting.
Just something else for you to consider.

I would be really worried if Ellis wasn't looking at Simon when he was trying to tackle him.

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Takes unprofessional behaviour to a whole new level.

A few things to consider.

1) The video has being shown to make Ellis look as bad as possible. At real speed I doubt it looks as bad as the video as it will show it is near impossible for Ellis to pull out.

2) Simon falls into Ellis's arm, it was aimed at the chest this means contact was accidental and not reckless.

3) Despite this, it is Ellis responsibilty going into the tackle to make sure he does not make contact with the head, he is unfortunate and unlucky to make contact but the reality is he has.

4) Michael Carter is being a cry baby and obviousley using this situation as an attempt to have a dig at the rfl. The whole everyones against us thing is rather precious and makes him look stupid, his players wont have being angels every tackle this season.

All that said Ellis has a good record and a EGP and a one match ban is a fair result.

Looks like Ellis goes to hit/wrap around the arm that is offering to offload. The players arm moves as his body position lowers and the upper part of Ellis's arm comes into contact with his head.
Nothing in it and not reckless though the action of attacking the ball carrying arm is of course which is part of the normal action playing the game.
Any citation/ban would be ridiculous and would apply to half a dozen or more players from each side every game.

Having just seen the video myself, I have to say with all the uproar i was expecting a hell of a lot worse. Imo contact was heading for chest until Simon head dips down, we see far worse unpunished tackles every week in every game, we still see cannon ball tackles go unpunished in live games. Ellis is committed to tgat tackle and the late drop of head is unfortunate and to late for ellis to pull out. I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a caution with ellis exemplary record but more likely 1 game egp. Mountain out of molehill spring to mind.

1. It's not a strike. It's a tackle.
2. It's not careless. The tackle is aimed squarely at Simon's chest/arm and Simon's head dips into line at the last second.
3. There is no possible way Ellis could pull out of that tackle in time once Simon's head ducks down.
4. Interesting that the clip has only been shown in slow motion, which makes it look as bad as possible.

Sometimes stuff just happens and it's nobody's fault.

Yup.


It's not a straight arm.


If their opinion conflicts with available evidence it does.


I'd take that under advisement if you weren't being condescending.

I agree. I posted the picture earlier on that shows hit arm would have hit his chest if Simon's head had stayed at the same level.

However, he did, none the less make contact with the head as a result of an extended arm, and I think they will class that are a "careless strike to the head", which is Grade B.

I hope I'm wrong and your right.

If he kops a ban then it opens a can of worms as someone said what about the leeds tackle on the bin man? you see this nearly every week