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| Quote: Fc_exile "Now the dust has settled/settling we all need to be objective. By ALL i mean the entire club; chairman to staff to players to fans.
The result today, whilst excellent was not deserved. The first 60 minutes was to similar to Widnes and our attack was all to similar to the previous 3 seasons. As an avid fan of over 30 years, I'm a little frustrated at continuously saying our club is in 'transition.'
I do not want to come across as pessimistic (overly), but where is our season going? The next 4 games are; Warrington, St Helens, Leeds & Huddersfield. On that performance i struggle to see us gaining more than 2 points, at most.
But who is to blame? It has to be Radford. This is his team, his philosophy, his coaching, his personnel. Radford has a win percentage of 40%!!!!
Gentle - 56%
Agar - 48%
So why in Gods name are we sticking with Radford?
Another issue i have is our recruitment. I do not want to come over as a smart ass but before he signed i watched a lot of Pritchard i said he was average at best, or at least not worth such a hefty salary. In fact, i believe he has regressed since his Bulldog days and his waistline has significantly increased. But this is the management's fault, and not the first time they have allotted such a salary cap proportion on players without necessarily improving results, i could name, Berrigan, Westerman, Holdsworth, Long. Whilst these are very good players, they didn't improve results. So what is the issue!!!!!'"
What a tremendous load of tripe. Pritchard was 1 of the standouts in the NRL last yr, to say otherwise is just stupid and totally lacking of rugby knowledge and ignoring what decent callers of the game like sterling fitler gould n johns were saying. Also warriors saw fit to offer a deal. In fact it is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. The top metre maker forward wise on the pitch today. From both sides
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Amen brother.
Haha, few beers down, but wow! Not experienced anything like that! We were garbage! What a come back!
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| In sport, the result will always be remembered longer than the performance.
Yes we were poor for 60 minutes today, but at least we did actually close the game out, unlike the Cas and Wigan games.
Feel so much happier today, than I did last Good Friday.
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| the big fat overweight ,over rated ,over paid no mark did 143 metres yesterday and did more than half the Rovers pack put together,he is our top metre maker and he gets e like this said about him .Get real for once FFS
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| The game is played for 80 minutes. It's extremely rare to fluke a win in RL. We defended fairly well for the entire game. Our attack was flat for the first 60 mins. Was the the coaches instruction? I very much doubt it, given the quotes for the coach and senior players in recent weeks. When we did run the ball on the last, Mini flipped the ball into Sio's hands and we conceded.
I think there are few on here who only watch highlights of game on TV. The idea a team can throw the ball around like a pass the parcel game on every set is deluded. Every team will have sets of one out stuff. It's part of the game. It's what you do with it close to the line which is more of a concern. Ironically, having our big lads charging on to the ball from a yard or two out might actually be a better thing to do.
But then again there are a fair few on here who seek to criticise when we win a game from 20 nil down with 20 mins left in the back yard of our arch rivals.
Did we deserve to win? We scored more tries and (more importantly) more points than the opposition. One things for sure, Rovers didn't deserve it win and that's purely down tho their final 20 minutes.
A team with a decent set of fans (sweeping statement, but you get my drift) would be talking about "finding a way to win" yet some on here maintain the anti radford agenda. I honestly do know why some bother .
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| hull2524 wrote:
We win a derby after being 20 pts down maybe a record? 4th in the table with a match in hand on some, yet we have this as a thread, SERIOUSLY
With the playing roster we have, we shouldn't have been anywhere near being 20 points down.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The game is played for 80 minutes. It's extremely rare to fluke a win in RL. We defended fairly well for the entire game. Our attack was flat for the first 60 mins. Was the the coaches instruction? I very much doubt it, given the quotes for the coach and senior players in recent weeks. When we did run the ball on the last, Mini flipped the ball into Sio's hands and we conceded.
I think there are few on here who only watch highlights of game on TV. The idea a team can throw the ball around like a pass the parcel game on every set is deluded. Every team will have sets of one out stuff. It's part of the game. It's what you do with it close to the line which is more of a concern. Ironically, having our big lads charging on to the ball from a yard or two out might actually be a better thing to do.
But then again there are a fair few on here who seek to criticise when we win a game from 20 nil down with 20 mins left in the back yard of our arch rivals.
Did we deserve to win? We scored more tries and (more importantly) more points than the opposition. One things for sure, Rovers didn't deserve it win and that's purely down tho their final 20 minutes.
A team with a decent set of fans (sweeping statement, but you get my drift) would be talking about "finding a way to win" yet some on here maintain the anti radford agenda. I honestly do know why some bother .'"
Well summed up.
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "What a tremendous load of tripe. Pritchard was 1 of the standouts in the NRL last yr, to say otherwise is just stupid and totally lacking of rugby knowledge and ignoring what decent callers of the game like sterling fitler gould n johns were saying. Also warriors saw fit to offer a deal. In fact it is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. The top metre maker forward wise on the pitch today. From both sides'"
OK were to begin. Firstly, a standout in the NRL i doubt. A reputation, yes. Standout, no.
Im not even going to argue with you on the 'decent' callers of the game Sterling, Fitler, Gould and Johns. More hidden agendas then the Conservatives.
The Warriors saw fit to offer him a deal. The same Warriors who offered Tomkins a huge deal and the same Warriors that are perennial underachievers.
I thought an opinion is what these boards are for. Not to have the usual childish 'lack of rugby knowledge,' 'you're stupid' catchphrases.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "The game is played for 80 minutes. It's extremely rare to fluke a win in RL. We defended fairly well for the entire game. Our attack was flat for the first 60 mins. Was the the coaches instruction? I very much doubt it, given the quotes for the coach and senior players in recent weeks. When we did run the ball on the last, Mini flipped the ball into Sio's hands and we conceded.
I think there are few on here who only watch highlights of game on TV. The idea a team can throw the ball around like a pass the parcel game on every set is deluded. Every team will have sets of one out stuff. It's part of the game. It's what you do with it close to the line which is more of a concern. Ironically, having our big lads charging on to the ball from a yard or two out might actually be a better thing to do.
But then again there are a fair few on here who seek to criticise when we win a game from 20 nil down with 20 mins left in the back yard of our arch rivals.
Did we deserve to win? We scored more tries and (more importantly) more points than the opposition. One things for sure, Rovers didn't deserve it win and that's purely down tho their final 20 minutes.
A team with a decent set of fans (sweeping statement, but you get my drift) would be talking about "finding a way to win" yet some on here maintain the anti radford agenda. I honestly do know why some bother .'"
Yes we won, but why don't we expect more. Why do we except mediocrity more than most other clubs. We beat Hull KR for goodness sake, yes we came back but it was not and is not good enough.
Lets deal with facts, as Benitez would say;
In the previous 2 seasons - against Wire we have won 1 out of 5 games; Leeds we have won 1 out of 6 games; Wigan we have won 0 out of 4 games, conceding on average 40 points per game against Wigan.
These will be the same fans that will still have the blind faith going into Warrington on Monday.
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| Some people are never happy why don't you save these type of posts for when we lose, just enjoy it like most on here because reading this after a fantastic comeback like we did, well YOUR BORING.
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| win by 1 point 2points or 50points its a win, play awful and win then its a win, its a derby for godsake, people like you need to be realistic, were hull fc, we are not going to be world beaters. end of the day we won and we are 4th! well done radders
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| Quote: Fc_exile "Yes we won, but why don't we expect more. Why do we except mediocrity more than most other clubs. We beat Hull KR for goodness sake, yes we came back but it was not and is not good enough.
Lets deal with facts, as Benitez would say;
In the previous 2 seasons - against Wire we have won 1 out of 5 games; Leeds we have won 1 out of 6 games; Wigan we have won 0 out of 4 games, conceding on average 40 points per game against Wigan.
These will be the same fans that will still have the blind faith going into Warrington on Monday.'"
Are you Bumpy in disguise? It was a damn good win away from home against a team that admittedly have struggled. They brought in a change of coach, which generally gives a team impotace, plus the fact he's had tenures with both clubs. He's revived them and coached them to a first win against a decent Salford team, in much the same manner as yesterday. You can only beat whats in front of you, FC did it in amazing style in the last 20 minutes. Accepting mediocrity? No. Following your team with blind faith? Yes, thats what fans (fanatics) do. Your obviously not a fan, but a follower from afar. Bumpy?
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| When you actually look at the stats we beat them four tries to 3 and had two dissallowed even though we played poorly for three quarters of the game which isnt too bad really.
Id love to know why the team cant perform for the full 80 though which they very rarely do
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| I can't believe this thread really why can't people enjoy it whether we all like it or not the days of playing well and looking attractive being the most important thing have now sadly gone forever and the only thing that matters in modern rugby league is not the way you do it, playing well for some of the game, or the way you play, but who gets the two points, then who survives into the top eight and then who moves on. But here despite a pretty none descript 60 minutes we made a record breaking recovery, have now beaten them 3 times on the trot, got two precious points and most important for me our senior players stood up as Houghton, Washbrook, Yeaman, Watts, Ellis etc quite amazingly with our past record managed the last 7 minutes superbly. Just enjoy it!!
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| Quote: marc2k7hullfc "win by 1 point 2points or 50points its a win, play awful and win then its a win, its a derby for godsake, people like you need to be realistic, were hull fc, we are not going to be world beaters. end of the day we won and we are 4th! well done radders'"
Play well and lose against Wigan and Cas no points or play rubbish (for 60 minutes) and win 2 points.
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