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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "My issue with him until recently was that he didn't score enough tries (not all his fault, nor Yeaman's
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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "I'll defend radford a little here
name a top level centre and hooker likely to come here. Centre especially. And a hooker given we have a frontline hooker so really only need a boudebza type?
I watch tons of rugby n I cant think of any. Also given the nrl cap may raise to 5mil'"


Its not our job to identify and sign players for the club.
We have been short of a top centre now for several seasons yet the club would rather sign utility players.
We had a decent young hooker in Cunningham but Radford in his wisdom didn't give him game time in that position.We need an additional hooker.For me a Boudebza type would be good.Surely cant be that difficult to find.
Danny Houghton is a great Pro and works so hard for the team but he takes the wrong option so many times like last night when he fed Paea nr the line with 5 men waiting to tackle him when we had a 3 man overlap if he had fed the ball to the left.

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pity we cant find someone like james segeyaro,great interchange hooker who really peps a flagging team up when he comes on.we lack someone like that.washbrook will add nothing ,if hes the man Radford is thinking of as bench hooker.

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Quote: Raggytash "Yes. Crooks and Arundel have gone on to be World beaters since they left us. Biggest mistakes since Danny Brough! lol'"

You don't get it do you! At the time Crooks WAS the solution to the right centre spot and had skills beyond his years/experience, ergo Gentle didn't need to sign a centre with ball handling skills. On the other side we had Yeaman and he signed Arundel as the suitor (an England Knights rep if you forget), Arundel had a fair lay off I recall but played 14 games and scored 7 tries, a better return than Yeaman though obviously needed some work on his D but was what just 21 when he started at the club.
I presume you wanted Yeaman & Sa as our strikeforce centre partnership right because that was what Radford has given us, he got reasonably lucky with switching Talanoa to centre and he's performed quite well there but that was out of desperation, Micheals got a chance at centre due to yeaman being utterly .

Radford made the whole team a laughing stock last year, his micturate poor coaching and some bitterness from the owner soon had any chance of our younger players being cast out and being scapegoated for our failings. Arundel never played a game under Radford, Miller & Crooks were treated like shat but yeah our centres have being white hot the last 2 years, all under the supremo that is Radford and he still hasn't sorted out a ball handling talented centre in the Crooks mould but it would seem we are okay for back row forwards icon_rolleyes.gif

So yes, the centre issue is a Radford failing on a worse scale than it was under the previous coaches stewardship but you're so blind and another Radford lover that you can't see straight logic!

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Quote: Raggytash "Yes. Crooks and Arundel have gone on to be World beaters since they left us. Biggest mistakes since Danny Brough! lol'"
Absolutely.

Sounds like bumpy doesn't quite agree, but he know best I suppose.

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Not sure the problem is entirely LR fault, but he hasn't addressed the issue yet... I am hopeful though that one of the new signings can play centre well next year, they may not be 'specialist' centres by trade but one of them may well turn out to be very good there. LR will have to take the blame though if we are found wanting though.

Would love to understand more about Crooks, it quite a fall from grace really? Admittedly there was room for improvement in his game, but for one season he looked to have a very bright future.

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Quote: Raggytash "Yes. Crooks and Arundel have gone on to be World beaters since they left us. Biggest mistakes since Danny Brough! lol'"

Wasting your time pointing out the freaking obvious in previous regimes' deficiencies. One-dimensional battering of Radford The way forward.

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Quote: ditchley16 "pity we cant find someone like james segeyaro,great interchange hooker who really peps a flagging team up when he comes on.we lack someone like that.washbrook will add nothing ,if hes the man Radford is thinking of as bench hooker.'"

Adds enthusiasm ,knows the game,can pass either side experienced at LF iirc amongst top tackles in SL, offers further options i/c injuries, not on massive contract and from Hull

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washbrooke is still a poor signing,if we are using him as interchange hooker.

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Quote: Jimmy Carr "Not sure the problem is entirely LR fault, but he hasn't addressed the issue yet... I am hopeful though that one of the new signings can play centre well next year, they may not be 'specialist' centres by trade but one of them may well turn out to be very good there. LR will have to take the blame though if we are found wanting though.

Would love to understand more about Crooks, it quite a fall from grace really? Admittedly there was room for improvement in his game, but for one season he looked to have a very bright future.'"


we'll see how he goes under powell next year

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...the fact we are lauding Michaels.....

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Quote: Raggytash "Yes. Crooks and Arundel have gone on to be World beaters since they left us. Biggest mistakes since Danny Brough! lol'"


Can't think of too many 22yr old `world beaters' tbh.
Crooks could have spent this season on the `Naughty step' sat in the stands with Shaul, but chose to spend a season living in one of the worlds most iconic cities, -
improving his game, (no matter who the coaches were) & landing a 3 year deal under arguably the best coach in super league.
Looks like he's done alright to me - given the alternative of stagnating under Radford.

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Quote: Raggytash "Matty Dawson? Kevin Penny? Ashley Gibson? I'd even prefer him to Aaron Murphy tbh.'"


Kenny Penny is an interesting one because he will divide you depending on how you like to see the game played, I see him as a match winner, an althlete and an entertaining player. Radford would see a player like Penny as his worst nightmare. If I'm honest I'd much prefer to see him on the wing over Micheals, like I say the lads a smart player, solid but just lacks an 'X factor' for me. As a bit of counter though ball in hand he's certainly looked more dangerous in recent weeks so maybe more to come from him, and his try ratio has improved a lot. If we had a team full of mavericks and backs like Penny he'd add a lot of balance, but my gripe is that Radofrd would prefer the whole backline like this.

As for the centre debate as long as he knows the score I can't see anything wrong with having Tuimavave as our starting centre, maybe a gamble but seems to have the talent and pedigree, that's certainly not a stick to beat Radford with and personally am excited to see how he goes. My concern is that because he's played there so little he's bound to have a few poor defensive reads and positioning issues at first, and is also a naturally creative player so may also turn over a fair bit of ball and let's not forget only 22, so will he get long enough in the side before he's placed on the naughty step and his attitude brought into question? Going on what we've seen, I'm not sure Radford has the patience or know how to get the best out of such a player, not to mention the temptation to play Yeaman there too.

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I still hope that Micheals us back up next year, he is a solid player, but doesn't have the pace or the X factor that Naughton and Lancaster have (or at least the potential).

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Quote: bonaire "Its not our job to identify and sign players for the club.'"

Biggest cop-out response used on these forums.

Any fool can demand 'something needs to be done' and then vanish when asked to define what exactly.

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