Yet he was still in a different league to our FB,



Neither can Shaul, but Escare can pass, is quicker and is better in support. Far better than Shaul.



He's not going to suddenly become better at passing, decision making and kicking because he's playing outside Sneyd.



He's not fit enough to play LF, better for now wider where a decent centre & second row can help out. Can't afford to carry passengers in the pack.



That may be the case, but he's undoubtedly enjoyed his best form at 13, he was called up to rep duty because of it.



He's been injured for 85% of the season, but you feel free to bag off one of our young players to try and have a dig.



As it was last night.

We had nearly 50 put on us last night, for a start!

Can't help but agree with the points 1865 makes about Shaul but we don't have a specialist for him to learn from, McDonnell would have being ideal and yes SM is the better all round FB by far. As I pointed out last season Shaul had a habit of pulling out or not bothering with tackling on the line, that's a mindset issue not one about bravery, his passing can be improved as can positioning but that needs a coaching team to be able to identify it it and a coach to actually implement modifications & improvements, again, that's not something we currently possess as a club.
All that said, Shaul isn't the worst by any stretch, probably could be a top 6 FB with work/experience, he's still young but we do need to get him under the wing of someone that knows what's what, that could be applied to quite a few in the squad though tbh.

Sure the result and the scoreline were disappointing but the performance was probably better than the Good Friday derby, the second half of the home league match v Leeds, the cup match v Leeds, Salford away, Huddersfield at home and Wakey away.

Don't agree with you at all so will to agree to disagree.

For the record, I have never bagged Hadley (Please show me where I have), but he will never be a superstar that you claim.

I agree, i'm far more frustrated than them games though. There seemed to be an attitude of 'we've done what we set out to do this year' for 70 minutes of the game.

I never said anything about how I rated Shaul. Just pointing out what our owner said about him last night. As it happens I don't rate him all that highly myself ATM but he has time to improve. And frankly I'd have him over Escare and possibly Dorn even now.

Shaul aint that bad at all. Jeez. His link play needs work. Thats all. His 1on 1 aint to bad. His instinctive support play is top notch. Has some x factor about him and been really good under the high ball
bowen has been in the most part terrible at wigan. He even had errors last night in a coasting game.

If Shaul was available which I believe he will be, most clubs would want him and would want to pay big. He's a massive talent, he just has that kind of ability. What's genuinely annoying about the whole thing is that although he's a bit rough round the edges he's improved other areas of his game and for all he's critised not exactly a liability, which IMO even if he was would be worth carrying for his ability in broken play alone, and there's still time to improve.

When he is sold it will be a sad indictment on the coach, the owner and by judging by some fans opinions that famous 'Hull fan' mentality that has contributed to many talented young players downfall.

Surprised you can even remember what shaul is like as a player

www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html "Frustrated Jamie Shaul dismisses mad rumours and vows to fight for his place"

www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html "Frustrated Jamie Shaul dismisses mad rumours and vows to fight for his place"

Cricky some will see that as he wants out out out lol

Now that's put to bed what will the negative crew talk about next? Yeamos extension? Ha