people should calm down a bit, amazes me how some go into meltdown, yes when lineham and crooks where doing well it looked like we had our centre and winger sorted, but things change crooks and lineham have both wanted out for reasons which only they know, it happens,crooks hasn't exactly ripped it up in aussie and lineham wanted out, maybe just maybe in the long run we might have made the right choice who knows,

Nothing to contribute again.

Another thread derail against AUP

frepneyboy, was posting his opinion on this matter.

If you dont agree, fine - but,is there any need to post content
which personally insults & berates fellow posters?

Constructive criticsm is fine, but personal criticism is not acceptable -IMO.

I can see it now playing Castleford nxt season Crooks in the right centre spot for them and Radford telling the player's well let yeaman (yes yeaman still in a FC shirt nxt season) run at Crooks cos Crooks can't tackle and every time yeaman does Ben will not stop him lol

Then on BBC Radio Humberside after the game

Well Lee Castleford Tigers have just beat you, what went wrong.

Lee - Well we though we'd target Crooks cos we know what he was like while at Hull

Humberside - but nothing got thou him this afternoon

Lee - yer last year in Australia must have improved Bens game so it's back to the drawing board for me

I take your point, but I find it very difficult to be constructive to a poster who constantly writes absolute nonsense.

dont chomp then, take a chill pill.

Sometimes i find it impossible to read some of the guff here. But its peoples opinions.

Before the internet we'd be stood at rugby or in a pub, all having the same discussions, and guess what, not everyone would have the same opinion on everything.

Lets not get personal eh

Absolute nonsense... in your opinion.

Some might agree, some may not...

Might help to have a constructed discussion, instead of castigating... -IMO

As a cas fan I'm on the fence with ben crooks.
Yes he as potential, he's still very young and with a coach like daryl powell working with him I'm sure the lad will improve, as did snyed under powell.

Just wondering about the registration fc hold.
Lets say no one will pay a fee for him, does that mean fc have to pay his wages for the remaining year of his contract, even if the lad never plays......sure it wont come to that.
So the club buying or paying a transfer fee for crooks could hold the cards in negotiations.
If fc want rid then they may have to accept a lower transfer fee or pay his wages.

Just a thought.

Depends on the opinion, doesn't it.

If an opinion has a foundation of ignorance and is absent of any facts, especially when it's come from someone who has previous form for displaying their close-minded attitude, then it's pretty difficult to be constructive about, or enter into any proper discussion.

Given that Radford does not rate him and was happy for him to leave in the first place did anyone seriously think he would be coming back to Hull?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt FC are paying his salary, as his contract would be ceased,moving to NRL, the only thing would be a nominal fee for his registration.

Regarding Ben,a great natural player, but it looks as if his mentality maybe a problem, as he is currently not selected for Parra's feeder team,and Magpies are bottom of the league.

I heard, he has a hip/groin problem, which inhibits his natural growth ...

IF Powell can improve him, he has heaps of potential. -IMO

FC paying Crooks will depend on the contract, rather than the registration. So if Crooks was released from his contract, he therefore stops getting paid by Hull.

(I think) Hull FC have retained his SL registration until then end of the originally contracted period (2016?). Although, the RFL rules state that a player if not contracted, can ask the RFL to remove them from the register.

Compensation-wise, I think as he's 22 the compensation period has expired (if he was released, which I'm not sure whether he definitely was or not).

Not sure on that, ben Is 6' 3''
I do know he had problems with his stomach when a kid and had a operation to rectify the problem.
Never heard about the hip/groin problems.

I thought it was turnstilitis in his upper body and arms.

I don't think it was a growth problem anyway. He got too big for his boots in just a few months.