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| Quote: *1865* "To be fair, he was probably referring to the CCRC.'"
He really should learn to keep his gob shut about things he clearly knows the square root of knack all about.
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| Quote: SirStan "He really should learn to keep his gob shut about things he clearly knows the square root of knack all about.'"
And having looked at the 'evidence' do you think it was right for him to have an appeal rejected or where those involved in making that decision swayed by all the media whores and other righteous souls..
Why can SB not have an opinion, and what gives you the power/knowledge to say he is wrong? You are BTW, but that's my opinion and you seemingly know the cube root of even less than SB..power to you good Sir, very brazen to come onto an open forum & show yourself up to be even less intelligent than the person you're attacking..kudos to you
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "And having looked at the 'evidence' do you think it was right for him to have an appeal rejected or where those involved in making that decision swayed by all the media whores and other righteous souls..
Why can SB not have an opinion, and what gives you the power/knowledge to say he is wrong? You are BTW, but that's my opinion and you seemingly know the cube root of even less than SB..power to you good Sir, very brazen to come onto an open forum & show yourself up to be even less intelligent than the person you're attacking..kudos to you
What "evidence" has Bruce or you looked at then?
Did you both attend the whole trial and listen to every word of testimony or have you read a complete transcript of the case?
The appeal judge at least read the grounds for appeal and when compared to the trial transcript, decided not to allow the appeal. A decision that was then confirmed by a panel of threee appeal court judges.
Much of the game of professional soccer is still steeped in misogyny, it's high time they dragged themselves into the 21st century
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| He's entitled to his opinion but it was unwise of Bruce to publicly comment on this.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "He's entitled to his opinion but it was unwise of Bruce to publicly comment on this.'"
Probably about right.
Those rightly demanding free speech for the likes of Paris cartoonists would do well to allow the same right to those who may not agree with mainstream opinion.
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| I don't paticularly care whether he's guilty or not, any person should be allowed to continue their career once they've served their sentence. The fact he's a footballer shouldn't come in to the equation.
However I do find it bizarre that, given the girls story they could find one party guilty and the other not guilty.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Bruce has done right in speaking out against the media witch hunt. If people knew 'the facts' of the case they might see things a little differently
It is not a Media witch hunt mate unless you are thinking that approx. 40000 are media people. The fact is the girl had never met this scrote and was she was drunk he sneeked in and out of a Hotel and not only penetrated her but had a bit of Muff diving. If you and Bruce want to defend that well good for you. I hope you never have a problem with a daughter.
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| 1885, does that mean if your children went to a nursery and one of the staff got convicted of being a paedophile you'd be happy for them to resume looking after your children once they'd served their sentance?
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| Quote: Mike1970 "1885, does that mean if your children went to a nursery and one of the staff got convicted of being a paedophile you'd be happy for them to resume looking after your children once they'd served their sentance?'" That's illegal. Evans playing football again isn't illegal.
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| Quote: ccs "That's illegal. Evans playing football again isn't illegal.'" Rape is Illegal
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| Quote: cod'ead "What "evidence" has Bruce or you looked at then?
Did you both attend the whole trial and listen to every word of testimony or have you read a complete transcript of the case?
The appeal judge at least read the grounds for appeal and when compared to the trial transcript, decided not to allow the appeal. A decision that was then confirmed by a panel of threee appeal court judges.
Much of the game of professional soccer is still steeped in misogyny, it's high time they dragged themselves into the 21st century'"
Have you actually looked at what is open to the public or not? I'm guessing not then because you're clearly a another know nowt sheep.
If you have are you able to make a considered decision (of your own volition) regarding the case and the actual evidence?
If you think the case against Evans is clear cut & he's a rapist, that's fine, the system and 12 people found him guilty, I on the other hand can 'see' what was right in front of everyone (though some was excluded from the original trial due to incompetence). In my opinion and that of many thousands of other normal thinking people can see that the 'evidence' shows that the whole thing is a miscarriage of justice..
That Steve Bruce has his own opinion and thinks the same is his right, just as it is your right to have yours, it's the right to have that opinion that seems to be open for debate, people like you & Sir Stan seemingly only want to allow others to have one if it fits in with what you agree with..same as the rugby discussions tbh..
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Have you actually looked at what is open to the public or not? I'm guessing not then because you're clearly a another know nowt sheep.
If you have are you able to make a considered decision (of your own volition) regarding the case and the actual evidence?
If you think the case against Evans is clear cut & he's a rapist, that's fine, the system and 12 people found him guilty, I on the other hand can 'see' what was right in front of everyone (though some was excluded from the original trial due to incompetence). In my opinion and that of many thousands of other normal thinking people can see that the 'evidence' shows that the whole thing is a miscarriage of justice..
That Steve Bruce has his own opinion and thinks the same is his right, just as it is your right to have yours, it's the right to have that opinion that seems to be open for debate, people like you & Sir Stan seemingly only want to allow others to have one if it fits in with what you agree with..same as the rugby discussions tbh..'" Explain to me and thousands of others please
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| I think Bruce is entitled to his opinion and those that have actually read up on this case will certainly have some questions surrounding the case against Ched Evans.
The woman in question has apparently made a previous rape allegation that was proved to be false. She'd also tweeted before the trial that when she wins she wins big and that she will treat her and a friend to pink mini's and a holiday, She was also apparently too intoxicated to consent yet she managed to carry a pizza whilst opening double doors all in high heels. We also have two parties who had sex with the woman that night in that hotel room. One got a not guilty one a guilty. If she is too intoxicated to agree to sleep with one male then surely she's too intoxicated to sleep with both?
She was also found to be lying under oath on toxicology reports that showed that she was a habitual user of Cannabis and cocaine.
Plenty of unanswered questions.
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| Quote: Basher "Explain to me and thousands of others please'"
why should I, because you can't be arrised to go and look/access public records and form your own opinion, I guess you're another sheeple right?
It's Bruce's opinion I'm defending, my own personal opinion is that I think Evans has being stitched up..
Why don't you have a look at the evidence then come back and give YOUR opinion...
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