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Quote: *1865* "Shaul
Talanoa (I'd have Michaels for pace personally)
Sa
Yeaman
Lineham
Pryce
Sneyd
Paea
Houghton
Watts
Mini
Ellis
Westy

Cunningham
Feka
Bowden
Hadley

Don't see Rankin getting in, don't want the halves messed with so what's the point?'"


You would drop one of our most consistent and best performers(coaches player of the yr no less) last yr for a player who has mostly been in the centres in recent times and keep yeaman in?
Regards the talonoa 'pace' thing. Most over blown thing I've heard for a while. Not lightening but I've not seen much to say his pace is a problem. Strong as an ox, makes good metres, safe, defensively strong, got good hands, always finds front and a fast play of the ball. All great assets and key parts of being a modern winger. Sum of all them is far more valuable than fast. Also with an offseason this yr he could be better still!

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Shaul
Talanoa
Sa
Michaels
Lineham
Pryce
Sneyd
Paea
Houghton
Watts
Ellis
Minichiello
Westerman

Feka
Green/Bowden
Thompson/Hadley
Rankin

Can't decide on the bench, and would need Houghton to do 80 minutes.'"


Same except I'd have Paea off the bench.
It's the team I'd pick now but heard some good stuff about naughton n I think he may end up in there!

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "You would drop one of our most consistent and best performers(coaches player of the yr no less) last yr for a player who has mostly been in the centres in recent times and keep yeaman in?
Regards the talonoa 'pace' thing. Most over blown thing I've heard for a while. Not lightening but I've not seen much to say his pace is a problem. Strong as an ox, makes good metres, safe, defensively strong, got good hands, always finds front and a fast play of the ball. All great assets and key parts of being a modern winger. Sum of all them is far more valuable than fast. Also with an offseason this yr he could be better still!'"

I want my wingers to be fast, clinical at the line and positionally sound. Three things Talanoa isn't.
As for Michaels, his last few games were in the pack.

It's not make or break, I'd be happy either way probably. I just don't think Talanoa is as good as some make out. He's certainly not as good as LR makes out, his one of the best in SL comment was laughable.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Shaul
Talanoa
Sa
Michaels
Lineham
Pryce
Sneyd
Paea
Houghton
Watts
Ellis
Minichiello
Westerman

Feka
Green/Bowden
Thompson/Hadley
Rankin

Can't decide on the bench, and would need Houghton to do 80 minutes.'"



For me, you've got to Whiting on the bench

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Quote: *1865* "I want my wingers to be fast, clinical at the line and positionally sound. Three things Talanoa isn't.
As for Michaels, his last few games were in the pack.

It's not make or break, I'd be happy either way probably. I just don't think Talanoa is as good as some make out. He's certainly not as good as LR makes out, his one of the best in SL comment was laughable.'"


Michaels should play centre, which is his best position and not be moved to the wing just to accomodate Yeaman.

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Quote: *1865* "I want my wingers to be fast, clinical at the line and positionally sound. Three things Talanoa isn't.
As for Michaels, his last few games were in the pack.

It's not make or break, I'd be happy either way probably. I just don't think Talanoa is as good as some make out. He's certainly not as good as LR makes out, his one of the best in SL comment was laughable.'"


Talanoa is as good as radford says I agree. There's stats to back a lot up but mostly I prefare my eyes. From the first games last yr I was walking away from the ground thinking what a good game he'd had. Even when the team had been dire often.
Finished everything put his way. Positionally caught out a few times but I think some was team defensive structure n the fact he'd been out the game a long time. Speed wise monaghan isn't particularly fast, but he was top try scorer.

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Quote: Diogenes "Michaels should play centre, which is his best position and not be moved to the wing just to accomodate Yeaman.'"

How do you know centre is Michaels best position? I watch the Gold Coast avidly and I've seen nothing to suggest that's true. But he does have a lot of pace, something we were lacking last year, that's my reason for picking him.

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Talanoa is as good as radford says I agree. There's stats to back a lot up but mostly I prefare my eyes. From the first games last yr I was walking away from the ground thinking what a good game he'd had. Even when the team had been dire often.
Finished everything put his way. Positionally caught out a few times but I think some was team defensive structure n the fact he'd been out the game a long time. Speed wise monaghan isn't particularly fast, but he was top try scorer.'"

I remember a couple of occasions he made breaks but threw the ball away, one at home particularly stands out. I just don't think a winger should be picked on his ability to make yards.
He's a good player and I certainly won't complain if he's given the job (which I'm certain he will be) I just want pace in my back line.

Put Talanoa in the Warrington team and he'd score a bagful, I hope we get to the level were our wingers score walk ins. Plus how many of Monaghans tries are due to his ability in the air?

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Shaul
Talanoa
Sa
Michaels
Lineham
Pryce
Sneyd
Paea
Houghton
Watts
Ellis
Minichiello
Westerman

Feka
Green/Bowden
Thompson/Hadley
Rankin

Can't decide on the bench, and would need Houghton to do 80 minutes.'"

I think I'd swap Sa and Michaels around but at the moment that looks like our team. Plenty of time for things to change though. Rankin can move past Pryce in the pecking order and Cunningham could earn himself a spot on the bench.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Shaul
Talanoa
Sa
Michaels
Lineham
Pryce
Sneyd
Paea
Houghton
Watts
Ellis
Minichiello
Westerman

Feka
Green/Bowden
Thompson/Hadley
Rankin

Can't decide on the bench, and would need Houghton to do 80 minutes.'"


Liking the look of that lineup Mrs B on paper looks good but we all know that stops when they take to the field lol

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Shaul
Talanoa
Michaels
Sa
Lineham
Pryce
Sneyd
Paea
Houghton
Watts
Ellis
Minichiello
Westerman

Feka
Green
Thompson
Rankin

Mine 17 would look like this, but when it comes to some games, its horses for courses imo

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Quote: *1865* "I remember a couple of occasions he made breaks but threw the ball away, one at home particularly stands out. I just don't think a winger should be picked on his ability to make yards.
He's a good player and I certainly won't complain if he's given the job (which I'm certain he will be) I just want pace in my back line.

Put Talanoa in the Warrington team and he'd score a bagful, I hope we get to the level were our wingers score walk ins. Plus how many of Monaghans tries are due to his ability in the air?'"

I agree, we lack pace but it's hardly surprising that radford is more inclined towards bigger, stronger players than smaller, quicker ones. If we end up with a 3/4 line of lineham, yeaman, sa and talanoa it will be painfully slow. I think talanoa showed many times last season he isn't a natural winger

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Quote: Newsom 13 "For me, you've got to Whiting on the bench'"


whitings getting a bit like an old book you discover in the attic hidden away, forgotten, and uncared about. he could well go out on loan at some point

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Does anyone know how Naughton is defensively......he sounds fast and good with ball in hand like Shaul but Shauls defence is suspect at times.

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I see Arundel has now been given squad number 33.

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