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| Yeah, get the important stuff sorted if you can. I might email him and see if he'll spring for lunch
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| Quote: Snozzle "Would get a programme but just wanted to read it now to digest it....wouldn't surprise me if the rumours in his notes address the rumours on this site anyway as he is a clever bloke'"
what makes you think I've got them but three years in I just think they will be interesting!
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "what makes you think I've got them but three years in I just think they will be interesting!'"
You're right......I just assumed as you are generally in the know
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| Quote: ccs "Lets hope they're more fact than fiction.'"
I think he is as honest as they come......there is only so much he can say though in his position. He must also be fully aware that the FC fans are threatening to vote with the pass sales.....will be interesting as he has some tough decisions to make
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| Quote: Snozzle "You're right......I just assumed as you are generally in the know
Hes not!!! dont kid yourself
He assumes a lot
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| Problem with Pearson is he's a proper Jackyll & Hyde on top of the fact he's impatient and prone to making astonishingly carp decisions that make no logical sense both from both a business sense AND functionally at a playing/club level.
IF things don't turn around pretty sharpish I reckon he'll bail and want to sell up to cut his losses as we are so far behind everyone else at the moment it's an utter joke.
Under Gentle at least we were at the business end of things and despite all the rubbish about having a pack that was too mobile (utter garbage) we had a squad that did get to a final, that did win a play off game on top of the fact we'd had shocking injuries losing Holdsworth for two months or more as well as Horne who'd come into some very decent form.
We may even have done better had it not been for certain others around Gentle and yet it was Pearson whom winkled Gentle out instead of those that undermined him..THERE IS YOUR PROBLEM!
We are now further back than were we were under Agar quite frankly, at least with Agar you could trust the guy not to lie out of arris everytime he opened his mouth..but Pearson elected to pick an 'assistant' (i use that phrase in the loosest sense describing Radford) with no experience coaching/managing a professional outfit ever, with clearly not enough nouse about the game to figure out even the basics, with ZERO man management skills and based on this season not a fooking clue about anything.
Radford hasn't the balls to own up he's being found out and was never the man for the job and Pearson hasn't the balls to own up he's made a fecking pigs ear of things..two bottleless s making our club a laughing stock.
Frankly Pearson can do one as well..good riddance as he's too unbalanced to run this club
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| Quote: Snozzle "And the pies are rubbish and over priced'"
I think the pies are much better than they used to be. The steak & ale one is very tasty.
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "His programme notes are certainly worth a read this week!'"
I really hope its not, an extension to Radford's contract.
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| Just got round to reading Murdock's article in the HDM and this stood out for me
"Instead, I believe the real problem lies in the thirst for immediate success. Rather than see long-term strategies put into place which will benefit the club for years to come, fans want success yesterday. Because fans by their very nature are fanatical about their club. They want success and they want it now"
And while we aren't responsible for poor on field performance or tinkering with the squad, I think that's spot on. Yes we should have kicked on from 2005/6 and should have done better last year, but if the club needs rebuilding as some seem to think, we need to lower our expectations. A lot.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Problem with Pearson is he's a proper Jackyll & Hyde on top of the fact he's impatient and prone to making astonishingly carp decisions that make no logical sense both from both a business sense AND functionally at a playing/club level.
IF things don't turn around pretty sharpish I reckon he'll bail and want to sell up to cut his losses as we are so far behind everyone else at the moment it's an utter joke.
Under Gentle at least we were at the business end of things and despite all the rubbish about having a pack that was too mobile (utter garbage) we had a squad that did get to a final, that did win a play off game on top of the fact we'd had shocking injuries losing Holdsworth for two months or more as well as Horne who'd come into some very decent form.
We may even have done better had it not been for certain others around Gentle and yet it was Pearson whom winkled Gentle out instead of those that undermined him..THERE IS YOUR PROBLEM!
We are now further back than were we were under Agar quite frankly, at least with Agar you could trust the guy not to lie out of arris everytime he opened his mouth..but Pearson elected to pick an 'assistant' (i use that phrase in the loosest sense describing Radford) with no experience coaching/managing a professional outfit ever, with clearly not enough nouse about the game to figure out even the basics, with ZERO man management skills and based on this season not a fooking clue about anything.
Radford hasn't the balls to own up he's being found out and was never the man for the job and Pearson hasn't the balls to own up he's made a fecking pigs ear of things..two bottleless s making our club a laughing stock.
Frankly Pearson can do one as well..good riddance as he's too unbalanced to run this club'"
Coming out with a quote like that and you think Pearson is unbalanced.
Pearson is the best thing that as happened to this club in a long time, unfortunately he is building from the bottom up for long term success unlike Salford who are buying for instant success and we don’t like it.
I am not happy with how FC are playing this season who is, but I am also not short sighted and can see what they are trying to build.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Problem with Pearson is he's a proper Jackyll & Hyde on top of the fact he's impatient and prone to making astonishingly carp decisions that make no logical sense both from both a business sense AND functionally at a playing/club level.
IF things don't turn around pretty sharpish I reckon he'll bail and want to sell up to cut his losses as we are so far behind everyone else at the moment it's an utter joke.
Under Gentle at least we were at the business end of things and despite all the rubbish about having a pack that was too mobile (utter garbage) we had a squad that did get to a final, that did win a play off game on top of the fact we'd had shocking injuries losing Holdsworth for two months or more as well as Horne who'd come into some very decent form.
We may even have done better had it not been for certain others around Gentle and yet it was Pearson whom winkled Gentle out instead of those that undermined him..THERE IS YOUR PROBLEM!
We are now further back than were we were under Agar quite frankly, at least with Agar you could trust the guy not to lie out of arris everytime he opened his mouth..but Pearson elected to pick an 'assistant' (i use that phrase in the loosest sense describing Radford) with no experience coaching/managing a professional outfit ever, with clearly not enough nouse about the game to figure out even the basics, with ZERO man management skills and based on this season not a fooking clue about anything.
Radford hasn't the balls to own up he's being found out and was never the man for the job and Pearson hasn't the balls to own up he's made a fecking pigs ear of things..two bottleless s making our club a laughing stock.
Frankly Pearson can do one as well..good riddance as he's too unbalanced to run this club'"
You should really say what you think.
Who would you have coaching us instead? (If you say Brian Smith I win the argument btw)
Who would you have owning us?
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| Quote: Chris28 "Just got round to reading Murdock's article in the HDM and this stood out for me
"Instead, I believe the real problem lies in the thirst for immediate success. Rather than see long-term strategies put into place which will benefit the club for years to come, fans want success yesterday. Because fans by their very nature are fanatical about their club. They want success and they want it now"
And while we aren't responsible for poor on field performance or tinkering with the squad, I think that's spot on. Yes we should have kicked on from 2005/6 and should have done better last year, but if the club needs rebuilding as some seem to think, we need to lower our expectations. A lot.'"
murdock is spot on but then what he's said is obvious. The problem is if you back the wrong coach you end up being further away from where you need to be
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| Quote: Chris28 "
Who would you have coaching us instead? (If you say Brian Smith I win the argument btw)
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What have people got against Brian Smith?
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| Quote: davey37 "What have people got against Brian Smith?'"
People see him as some kind of messiah, based on a couple of seasons with Hull in the late 80s, but he's won nothing of note in his career as far as I can tell. He's taken teams to finals and lost, and you could say the same about Peter Sharp and Peter Gentle, but people don't get misty eyed over them for some reason.
I've never met him and have nothing personal against him, but just don't see what he would offer.
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| Quote: Chris28 "People see him as some kind of messiah, based on a couple of seasons with Hull in the late 80s, but he's won nothing of note in his career as far as I can tell. He's taken teams to finals and lost, and you could say the same about Peter Sharp and Peter Gentle, but people don't get misty eyed over them for some reason.
I've never met him and have nothing personal against him, but just don't see what he would offer.'"
Maybe so but he took our team of fairly average players and improved them (as a team) massively.
Similar to Daryll Powell and Cas to me.
If he had stuck around who knows but let's be honest there is only one trophy to win in Aus and it takes a special team to win it.
Not saying he would be the answer but it would be interesting to see if he could have the same impact as first time round.
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