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| Quote: Sebasteeno "No I do, he got us away from Kath and co and Agar and I know he's 'tried' sorting out the youth system but the team on the park is still poor, attendances are dropping, people are walking away from the club in their droves, the quality of players we sign is poor/bargain basement and he still hasn't addressed the half back issue when other teams have no problem with this at all. He's got a cheap coach and realistically the club is going no where and I see nothing changing under Pearsons ownership as nothing so far has shown that he has the ability/know how to sort this club out.'"
How you mean he has "tried" to sort out the youth system.We have had more youth players come through under his tenure than ever before....Hetherington and Agar couldn't give a toss about the youth and AP knew this and addressed it..he ploughed £150,000 in straight away to get the youth up and running and it's worked...we have had Shaul,Crooks,Lineham,Lancaster,Bowden,Hadley,Kent,come through with the Tyson-Wilson brothers,Stark,Dean,Turget and Cunningham the ranks ready to step up but you won't know this will you as you don't see the youth we have coming through.
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| Current first team players making their their débuts:
2014 Lancaster,
2013 Shaul, Hadley
2012 Bowden, Lineham, Crookes, Green, Cunningham
--- Pearson Buys Hull FC ---
2007 Houghton
2001 Yeaman
1998 Horne
AP got 99 problems but the youth aint one.
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| Quote: C for Cuckoo "Current first team players making their their débuts
Can add Nickleas and Kent in as we'll....no longer with us but was given a chance.
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| Yeah good interview
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| Really great interview, honest and a clear plan is being developed. If we end up with 80% of the team being Hull born players giving 110% for their home town club I'll have no complaints. As he says, we're in transition, I'm confident that the future is looking brighter.
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| Quote: WIZEB "He's not very complimentary towards PG.
Pretty straight forward on the Bulls situation too!
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| Good interview! As always honest. Would love a team with the majority of Hull players
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| Quote: C for Cuckoo "Current first team players making their their débuts
I get your point but slightly unfair considering some players don't play for us but are in Super League
Josh Hodgson
Kirk Dixon
Tommy Lee
Scott Wheeldon
Danny Washbrook
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| Quote: Liam666 "I get your point but slightly unfair considering some players don't play for us but are in Super League
Josh Hodgson
Kirk Dixon
Tommy Lee
Scott Wheeldon
Danny Washbrook'"
Graeme Horne
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| Quote: Liam666 "I get your point but slightly unfair considering some players don't play for us but are in Super League
Josh Hodgson
Kirk Dixon
Tommy Lee
Scott Wheeldon
Danny Washbrook'"
So since Horne debuted in 1998, we have had around 10 players come through and make SL players, I'd say that is shocking.
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| Great interview . Honest as per usual, looking at 5 half backs, 2 back rowers and 3 wingers .
Think AP is starting to dislike our little neighbours as much as us
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| Quote: Legends and Icons "Great interview . Honest as per usual, looking at 5 half backs, 2 back rowers and 3 wingers .
Think AP is starting to dislike our little neighbours as much as us'"
Agree great interview, I challenge anyone to watch that and see AP isn't the man to take us forward, at first he wanted to come in and make big changes and get us challenging straight away, but now he is taking the Wigan/Leeds approach looking long term. Watching that makes me want to get a pas next season.
Also it's two props no backrowers and it sounded like Taylor is almost done, just the fee for Wigan to sort out I would guess.
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| Quote: Dave K. "So since Horne debuted in 1998, we have had around 10 players come through and make SL players, I'd say that is shocking.'"
10 mentioned by Cuckoo (11 if you include Horne)
I got 5 and paintman pointed out a 6th for players who are still playing SL now
so thats 17 players meaning an average of 1 a year since Horne debuted who are SL players
obviously we've brought more through since Pearson took over (Cuckoo's point) and look like bringing more through like BTW. Some players just aren't at SL level, the likes of Tommy Saxton, Antonty Thackery, Danny Nicklas, Liam Kent are examples of potentially good players but can't quite make it,
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| Quote: Liam666 "10 mentioned by Cuckoo (11 if you include Horne)
I got 5 and paintman pointed out a 6th for players who are still playing SL now
so thats 17 players meaning an average of 1 a year since Horne debuted who are SL players
obviously we've brought more through since Pearson took over (Cuckoo's point) and look like bringing more through like BTW. Some players just aren't at SL level, the likes of Tommy Saxton, Antonty Thackery, Danny Nicklas, Liam Kent are examples of potentially good players but can't quite make it,'"
Tommy Saxton will have a Challenge Cup Winners medal to show his grandkids though
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| In regards to youth...
The Agar era saw next to zero youth come through. He debuted roughly 6 players, and Reece Lyne played the most (12 games in 2 years). In fact, I think he played more than the rest combined (I started a thread about this a few years ago).
Gentle had debuted more players in one season than Agar in 4.
Sharpe also debuted a lot of youth in his time. The 2006 GF runner up side featured 13 British players, 9 being Hull produced IIRC. That's where I'd like to see us. That's the only way we'll compete with the big boys. You can't buy a squad. You have to produce most of it due to the cap. Young players are cheaper.
Youth development takes 10 years to get right. There are hopefully a few coming through the system that have natural talent, but if we want developed talent in numbers, give it longer than 3 seasons!
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