I share many of the opinions listed on the thread regarding the game as a whole. There's only so many second man plays and kicks to the corner that can remain interesting over a long period of time. Couple that with idiotic presenters working for the main broadcast partner, a bemusing league structure, a heavily sanitised game where even the sight of a player being pushed into touch gets referees panicking, more water carriers on the field than players etc. etc. and the image to me is just a very stale one.

Getting harder to motivate myself particularly with the travel to games getting more difficult as well certainly on Fridays.

Wakefield fan for knocking on 50 years. The game should have developed over the years particularly when you consider the amount of money pumped in to it. The RFL lack any kind of organisation, structure, and lack any kind of thought of how to develop the game. We have all become selfish and single minded . The game needs a good shake up and must be run by forward thinking business people who not only have the interest of the game and individual clubs but also can formulate a long term plan to 1 make the game more appealing ,2 create a viable long term structure, 3 create stability and structure.

The atmosphere we got at the KC when we were averaging 12K+ was decent IMO, the problem is we've now lost 3K fans and even the East & South stands are sp as a result.

A consistently successful Hull side can average 14-15K easily (which would mean the East, South & West Lower would be pretty much sold out)

yes I'd love to see us having our own specialist rugby ground, but realistically it isn't happening...so we have to concentrate on getting the team playing well again and the crowds will naturally get bigger and louder as a result.

I agree . Yesterday there were just over 10k in the ground .
Until the fight you could here a pin drop . You could hear the players calls , grunts etc .
They must of thought they were playing at YPI Chants Ave . Our sanitised fickle bunch are too busy looking at Girlie Bird.
I know how to get the crowd going.
Instead of Clarky doing the annoying and stupid "Good afternoon East Stand" , he should walk to the centre spot and burn a Rovers scarf !!

The problem for me is we have tried to grow and blatentley stuck two fingers up to the fans who have kept this game alive over the decades. It seems every other six months another club hits administration and is spending a full season getting tonked. The way the game is governed it seems one rule for one and a different one for other people, there is zero modern day forward thinking at Red Hall (could anybody really see Nigel Wood heading a twitter or facebook campaign ?).

If your from France, down south, Wales or any other RL starved area the games top bosses will do everything in there power to fast track you to a SL side. But if your over 100 years old and got a tax bill thrown at you, they really don't want to know.

Clubs like PSG, Sheffield, Crusaders, Toulouse and Catalans (although Cats are a success story) have being chosen to spotlight the sport rather then great clubs like Halifax, Leigh and Featherstone.

They say in this sport we are not afraid to try something new, which is fair enough. But we do seem afraid to think and apply common sense logic, putting Magic Weekend on at the same time as the FA Cup final is another mistake and shows the lack of forward planning at Red Hall. I admire there will to take on Football but we all know out the two events which 50/50 fans will choose.

Everyone knew at the time that Franchising would have a knock on effect to the quality of the league for at least the first ten years, its obvious that was going to happen when you encourage clubs to invest in there own. We haven't even hit ten years yet and already the plug has being pulled.

We as a sport have lost our morals and focused far too much on the £££. What we need to do is put league structure in place which is fair, competitive and allows clubs to progress. Should an outside City wish to join our sport we should welcome them with open arms, but they must start at the bottom like everybody else and find there own identity.

Too much off the field stuff takes the headlines these days and that is where the sport has gone wrong. Nobody cares about the facilities to them as long as what they watch on the pitch is entertaining.

(tin foil conspiracy theorist hat on) I really am starting to wonder if the poor standard of officiating matches is down to some sort of twisted agenda to make games closer and supposedly more entertaining with tenser finishes. It doesn't work and if the powers that be think anyone that has a basic grasp of the game will fall for it they must be as daft as everyone thinks they are. (tin foil hat removed)

Going against the majority on here and still love RL, really look forward to watching sky games and NRL (Which has been amazing this year).

I'll never stop going, but getting really fed up with Hull at the moment, really considering not watching the Derby for the FA cup final instead the way i feel about the club at the moment (although, I reckon this will change the more the week goes on).

This is certainly a really good thread which shows views reflected across the whole game, I'll not stop going but I do thing some times that I'm wasting my time, we have our problems as a Club, but with the exception of the fans of Leeds, Widnes and Castleford who for obvious reasons are up at present the rest of Clubs have supporters who are drifting away. The thing is too that with Clubs getting more money from Sky than the limit of their cap many owners are doing little about it. The drain of top players to Australia, refereeing, the judiciary, next years ridiculous new competition format, the goons on Sky, the demise of international rugby etc etc etc are all seeing our great game suffering from dwindling interest! After a great World Cup that should have kick started our game in this country, its certainly a worry!

When you see some of the decisions coming out of Red Hall, no wonder we are getting confused and frustrated.

spot on.

I've changed my views on the new competition format for next year, having been very opposed to it before i'm now willing to give it a chance. I think the game needs to be 'showcasing' the top 8 best sides in big ties over the summer, even if its looking likely that Hull will miss out and will play in the 2nd set of 8.

the current format means that for clubs like ours the season is over as soon as you exit the Cup, so I am willing to give the new structure a chance.

Good Thread This

I am becoming more and more tired with the same old excuses coming out of Hull F.C (trained well intensity at training) but not bleedin turning up on game day.
Lets be honest Hull & Rovers fans we are 2 poor teams playing for 7th and 8th.
Sorry not good enough Mr Pearson and Mr Hudgell deserve more than this for the money they have invested.
I no longer bother with any SKY games as the game has no characters anymore you have to admit from the days of watching Paul Woods Ronnie Wileman etc you always looked forward to a good bit of Biff.
The RFL the Super League are a complete joke.

I've decided that after this Friday's game I'm going to have a few weeks break from RL. I'm certainly not going to waste my money and half of my weekend going to away matches. Hopefully the weather will be good and there are other things to do. I might watch Hull if we are on Sky but won't be watching any other matches. Hopefully a feww weeks off will have rekindled my interest by 4 July.

really is a good thread this,but very worrying also, after watching hull for more than 50yrs don't like this feeling of apathy towards fc and the game in general!!?

Boring dummy runner plays attributing for the majority of the trys, boring wrestling techniques slowing down the play of the ball, no-one touching the ball with their foot when playing the ball and any kind of aggression getting too heavily penalised. And that's just the stuff ON the field!