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| The letter is just another sorry chapter in the Allam saga. They've mortgaged City to the hilt while trying to gain the freehold of the KC. They've fallen out with the council so want City removed from the club name. The sponsorship side show is just another 'move to Melton' episode. Shambolic all round.
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| As the actual name change of the soccer club has NO RELEVANCE to the dealings of the SMC, and therefore NO RELEVANCE to Hull FC then whay is this being discussed on here ? I agree the OP did say "slightly O/T" but this is totally O/T.
personally I think the Allams are sulky, petulant and arrogant, but again that's not an opinion of relevance to this board. I can't stand Hull Sh1tty and don't want to read about or talk about them on here
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| reading between the lines I think the allams are wanting a way out and in todays climate that can't be good for city, the problem lies in the stadium capacity this been the reason he wanted to buy it. I can see city playing Shorpe and co in a couple of seasons with 4000 supporters watching them, Hull is a rugby city always has and always will be. I know city fans will be slagging me off for this but I watched city vs Newcastle at weekend and wasn't bothered who won, just wanted to watch a prem team at the kc. That doesn't make me a glory supporter just curious and will continue to renew my anfield season pass, its sad when there are more Liverpool and man utd fans in this city than actual city fans. At least allam wont be trying to screw fc out of more money in a couple of years.
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| If someone already has registered a change to Hull Tigers I suppose Dr Allam could try something else .
Hull Sharks maybe
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| Quote: Staffs FC "The letter is just another sorry chapter in the Allam saga. They've mortgaged City to the hilt while trying to gain the freehold of the KC. They've fallen out with the council so want City removed from the club name. The sponsorship side show is just another 'move to Melton' episode. Shambolic all round.'"
That's the way i see it.
Fell out with the council so to annoy them they want to remove the word CITY from the teams name.
The sort of petulent thing they do.
Still no real proof that changing to Tigers will increase revenue.
Hull will be the CITY of culture in 2017. Surely they can use that to increase sponsorship etc??
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| After reading this 'open letter' nothing seems to have changed and underlying in the letter is the fact that the Allams still are of the mind set 'its our way or the highway'.
They have still yet to put any evidence/projections of extra revenue streams changing the name would make compared to leaving the name as is.
Yet again this is appauling timing for PR with the fact they have one of the most important games in the clubs history at the weekend for decades that being the FA cup tie at home. Instead of pushing and using this to market Hull City to potential sponsorship for next season they bring up the arguement and bad feeling again.
It all comes back to wanting rid of the word City due to Assem Allams fall out with the council and his petulant outburst and now they are just trying to cover it up with bad PR as something else.
As a business owner myself I wouldnt be to bothered about the name of a club if I wanted to sponsor as it would be more about what coverage I can get for MY company and the financial return for my outlay. The only hope City have got to significantly increase revenue from sponsorship is to earn it by becoming a successful club on the field and being contenders for trophies and staying at the top level. Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea etc have been the most successful clubs in England because of their history and success which has earnt them the returns from their names. Man Utd in the late 70's early 80's wouldnt suddenly have found untold riches by changing the name to Manchester Reds they got it from the success they have achieved over the years and most recently under Alex Ferguson, because of that companies were prepaid to pay top dollar to be associated with the club.
This I believe all smacks of the Allams wanting out as they can not get their hands on the prime asset (The KC) to build their retail development etc as their sole reason for buying City in the first place. This wouldnt suprise me as the first stage of an exit strategy to enable them to save face by putting the blame for their selling up on the Council and the supporters (CTWD) or both.
Lets face it they should be renamed the Melton Tigers by now and playing out their own Super Stadium next season
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| Quote: ccs "He's also given away some clues to their current income, saying it's 7% of gate receipts.
So if every match, plus a few cup games, attended by 25000 passholders, averaging say £350 per season,
would give a total of around £9m, which equates to around £125m annual income. Serious money already!!
He's also threatened to increase prices by 50% if he doesn't get his way.
(Sums may be way off the mark.)'"
I think your sums are ok, but I think the 7% of total income coming via the gates is to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Everton announced their financials this week for their last accounting period in which they has a RECORD turnover of £87m. Thats a club who will average 10k fans more than City will
The letter in the HDM doesn't change anything, its a polite way of saying what the old man has come out with in the past in an abrupt way.
There is no proof what so ever that changing their name will attract bigger sponsors.
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| Getting more OT I know, but last years premiership club finances are rlhererl
They do vary massively, and clearly city's income is not £125m.
I can't understand why Allam has seen fit to make his statement now. He's said it all before.
If he knew already that his bid had been successful, then what's the point?
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| Couldn't give a toss.
They can go to the wall again for me.
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "Couldn't give a toss.
They can go to the wall again for me.'"
Snap !!! I know he runs the smc but what's this got to do with hull fc or rugby league in general ?
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: Legends and Icons " I know he runs the smc but what's this got to do with hull fc...?'"
This, unfortunately, has a rather large bearing on this. And this latest battle has nothing to do with the name Hull Tigers and everything to do with the word 'City', the City Council, and his designs on our stadium. At the moment he seems to be losing the stadium battle, but he won't rest until he gets it or leaves Hull City. In the meantime, he will use his ownership of the SMC to put pressure on the council by eternally repeating it's a money drain and putting some of the blame on our agreement. He can make life as difficult as possible for us as he believes we are one of the council's major sticking points when it comes to the freehold.
Have you forgotten Whiteleygate? Everything he does is tactical and for a reason. I think his reasoning has backfired on this one, but that doesn't mean his motives have changed. While he remains owner of the SMC and also stadium-less, he remains a threat to us, I'm afraid, and his actions - all of them - are therefore very relevant to our club.
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| Quote: Legends and Icons "Snap !!! I know he runs the smc but what's this got to do with hull fc or rugby league in general ?'"
EXACTLY
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| Quote: WormInHand "This, unfortunately, has a rather large bearing on this. And this latest battle has nothing to do with the name Hull Tigers and everything to do with the word 'City', the City Council, and his designs on our stadium. At the moment he seems to be losing the stadium battle, but he won't rest until he gets it or leaves Hull City. In the meantime, he will use his ownership of the SMC to put pressure on the council by eternally repeating it's a money drain and putting some of the blame on our agreement. He can make life as difficult as possible for us as he believes we are one of the council's major sticking points when it comes to the freehold.
Have you forgotten Whiteleygate? Everything he does is tactical and for a reason. I think his reasoning has backfired on this one, but that doesn't mean his motives are unchanged. While he remains owner of the SMC and also stadium-less, he remains a threat to us, I'm afraid, and his actions - all of them - are therefore very relevant to our club.'"
And all his actions should be watched very closely.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: davey37 "And all his actions should be watched very closely.'"
It [iis[/i becoming a bit of a pain in the bum after 3 years or so. He's really not a pleasant sight to behold. But I agree, a necessary evil - watch him we must.
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