They did at Cas.

Like he says - no excuses from now on. I don't think he's been value for money on his displays so far for the club, so he really has to earn his corn this year or I suspect he may be shown the door.

Wasn't he being compared to a young Paul Sculthorpe when we signed him?

Not seen evidence of that in his time at Hull but still hoping.

Anywhere near his standards would do for me.

To be fair to Westerman (and accurate) that fee went to Cas, not to him.

I hate when people mention his transfer fee! It's not his fault we paid that much for him.

I thought he had been sacked for fighting will Miller ?!?!?

Bloody bad rumours init

Exactly !
What is it with Hull FC fans ? Constant rumour about players , fixation with new future signings.
We really have become a fickle bunch !
Get behind the Club and support your team !

As does O'Loughlin. I also don't see him as being any more sloppy than anyone else in the team, the stats you yourself provided proved that.

He'll hopefully be able to take more control of a game from 13 and grow as an influence on the team.

People on here who know me, know how high a regard I hold Westy in. For me the kids a true great waiting to happen, people forget he's only 24, that's the same age as Chris Green! He's got ten years ahead of him, he needs to make this 'his club' and take control of this young group and lead them forward.

Brilliant player who maybe plays to many mins in the position he holds, concentration always drops when a player is fatigued, forgot he is only 24 his best years are in front of him hope he stays at FC for the rest of his career.

Don't rate him!

When are people going to realise he's not good, never as been, never will be, costs us games with stupid penalties at worst possible times, can't catch, can't tackle, think alot if hulls problems come from sticking with players like him, get rid and lets stop kidding ourselves he's going to be a top player, not going to happen! So bored of people banging on about how much potential he's got, if he as got potential, he's not professional enough to ever reach is potentional, lets get rid and spend big on a classy 13, don't know who haha but got to be someone better! Oh yeh, Richard whiting! It's a no brainer , only my opinion of course

People had these views on Danny Brough in his time at FC, i understand its peoples own views but he needs support & backing of us fans they all do, there is nothing worse then making an error & having all the stadium on your back, anyone that puts the famous black & white shirt on to play gets my support, its a hard enough game without us lot booing or heckling. COYH.

Hear, hear! You've brilliantly summed up exactly how I view Westerman, the root cause of his failings due to the bit I've underlined.

How Whiting isn't running out every week as loose man and captain is beyond me. Not the classiest but the cleverest, most professional and most reliable we have.

Got any proof, or can you even remember these games he cost us? My suggestion is you're talking out of your ar$e, and you're another one of the ones that make stupid references to a fee he had nothing to do with. If you don't rate Westerman, you don't understand rugby league, ask any of his team mates or anyone in the game if he's any good.

And please don't give it the pathetic Whiting at 13 drivel, Rich doesn't even want to play there FFS.