I wouldn't try to explain yourself Dave. If he can't work it out for himself then he needs to stop trolling.

Totally over the top and out of order, it was the second tackle!

Whilst I agree with what you say and I dont wish to be pedantic, Huddersfield have beaten us twice already

at least the dobbin trolls are having there day in the sun

Well let's face it. It's the only thing they have to celebrate.

Doubt it's either of these two, Hull were sounding out coaches in Aus weeks ago.

And the source of your inside knowledge is ?????????

Can you imagine how the conversations went "afternoon Mr xxxx, I am from Hull FC, we're in a major final in a couple of weeks and still in a shout of the playoffs, but we're looking for a new coach"

Yeah. Wouldn't be much incentive to move your family around the world knowing even if you make finals u could be binned!

Doubt very much that by Marketing New Passes on our return from Wembley they will then announce either of these as head coach - It would be the biggest disaster of Adams time in charge. In my view our offence is a mirror of Radford as a player.

Doesn't surprise me, I like Gentle but have major doubts now, not just because of this weeks final, but over the course of the season.

In attack we are as clueless as we where under Agar, and you could even argue we are worse because we no longer have Manu & Moa to creates gaps. His signings have largely been anonymous, with players like Johnson & Crookes not even making the team most weeks. We're 7th in the league, which is just where we where when he took over. The only area's we've improved is in defence and bringing younger players through.

I think he'll get the start of next season, but if we make another poor start he'll be on the next flight home.

The references to Uncle Kath and Agar does make you realise there is a bright side, even in the situation we are at the moment.

as much as I disliked Kath & Agar, are we really in a massively stronger positon now?

off the field we are stronger, and I am encouraged by the youth development and young players we have coming through, but on the field:

in 2011 we finished 8th, winning 13, drawing 1, scoring 718 points, letting in 569 points.

this year with 2 rounds to go we are 7th, having won 12, drawn 2, scoring 606 and letting in 492

as much as it pains me to say it: that isn't progress.

and before people say 'Gentle got us to Wembley' don't forget Agar did that too, and we put in a far better display against a Saints side that were a lot stronger than Wigan were on Saturday. Gentle has a lot to prove.

Yes. And anyone who can't see that has little idea of how success is achieved in professional sport.