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Quote: Kosh "Not a case of dropping him though. We have three halves and only two can play. Which two we pick should depend on form and fitness. If Horne comes back from injury in the same form he had before then he's a no-brainer. Out of Holdsworth and Miller, DJ has the better field kicking while Miller is quicker and looks more dangerous ball in hand.

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Tbf...Millers kicking was very good v Cats...id have Miller in as like you say,better with ball in hand and a lot quicker,all the attributes for a good 7.

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Quote: fc baldy "Tbf...Millers kicking was very good v Cats...id have Miller in as like you say,better with ball in hand and a lot quicker,all the attributes for a good 7.'"

Yeah - didn't mean that Miller has a bad kicking game at all. Just think DJ has a better one ATM. Or maybe more consistently good would be a better description.

Think Miller is going to be a great signing. All the attributes a 7 needs and very vocal as well.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: Kosh "Yeah - didn't mean that Miller has a bad kicking game at all. Just think DJ has a better one ATM. Or maybe more consistently good would be a better description.

Think Miller is going to be a great signing. All the attributes a 7 needs and very vocal as well.'"


Noticed that in all the games so far and he shoved someone out of the way during the match as he wanted the ball at 1st reciever.A ideal combination is Miller and DJ but (await the avalanche of derision) DJ hasnt really done it for me yet.

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Miller has to play 7. if both DJ and Horney are fit then we just let Pete decide.

How nice to have this luxury for a change. Competition for these places at last is a good thing.

Once upon a time is was - we have no-one so lets see what Washy can do there.

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Miller has to keep playing IMO. He's shown some real classy touches and has had a nice kickin game. Up to Gentle who he puts next to him.

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Didn't John Kear do that with Paul Cooke in 2005 in the semi and the final?

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Yes, we have three halves, but only one is a scrum half. Miller will play every week, the battle will be between the two off-halves. I bet, in Galea-esque way, Gentle will give the nod to Holdsworth over Horne. I also think that if Horne returns in the same form as before, that decision will be a travesty. The irony is, I doubt Horne'll get the game time to prove if he's retained the form anyway.

Hope I'm wrong about Gentle favouring Holdsworth, but this blinkered favouring of Galea is the only niggling gripe I've got with Gentle so far, and I've a glum feeling it will extend to Holdsworth too.

Of course, on the other hand, Miller and Holdsworth will be our long term halfback pairing.

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All 3 play for me, at least in the 17. Horne & Holdsworth both injury returneees. Jacob here to stay & must start at 7 whenever fit, ideally with his long term partner - PG more informed on that than us.

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Quote: WormInHand "Yes, we have three halves, but only one is a scrum half. Miller will play every week, the battle will be between the two off-halves. I bet, in Galea-esque way, Gentle will give the nod to Holdsworth over Horne. I also think that if Horne returns in the same form as before, that decision will be a travesty. The irony is, I doubt Horne'll get the game time to prove if he's retained the form anyway.

Hope I'm wrong about Gentle favouring Holdsworth, but this blinkered favouring of Galea is the only niggling gripe I've got with Gentle so far, and I've a glum feeling it will extend to Holdsworth too.

Of course, on the other hand, Miller and Holdsworth will be our long term halfback pairing.'"


Not that long term. A few comments on this board recently have me wondering if people realise that Holdsworth is less than 2 years younger than Horne and will be 30 early into next season.

I'm another who'd be tempted to go with Miller & Horne this season, particularly if Miller's kicking game keeps improving. Contrary to what Jon Wilkin said, I don't honestly think Holdsworth has provided us with much composure this season (not consistently, anyway).

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Quote: Rock God X "I can't think of a more stupid idea than playing a SO at LF.'"

Playing a scrum half there?

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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Didn't John Kear do that with Paul Cooke in 2005 in the semi and the final?'"

cooke was about 6 foot 3 and 15 stone though and the game has moved on in the last 8 years

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Quote: Jake the Peg "cooke was about 6 foot 3 and 15 stone though and the game has moved on in the last 8 years'"

Coupled with the fact we now employ the LF as a third prop, putting Holdsworth there would probably cause out attack to just break down

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I cannot understand why anyone on here wants us to play Horne or Holdsworth at LF.

The reason that we lost 4 consecutive matches is because our pack was being overrun. Our LF plays like an extra prop, not a ball-handling 13. Switching that out in order to play Horne or Holdsworth will not help out forwards at all.

For me, Miller plays. Out of the 4 that can play in the halves (Miller, Holdsworth, Horne, Heremaia) he is the only one who is a proper scrumhalf. I also think that he's shown a lot of potential in the few games he's played for us.

I'd give Holdsworth the nod to partner him, too. Both Horne and Holdsworth have been good in the games they've played for us so far (although I think a lot of Horne's form has been down to Holdsworth giving him the freedom to play that way). I would pick Holdsworth over Horne simply down to him having the better kicking game and will therefore give us a better rounded team.

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Don't forget Horne can also play full back, not that McDonnell did badly yesterday, but there is pressure for a place in more than the halves when he returns.

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Worth having Horne on the bench not sure if azza is going to be fit as that was a huge knock he took, rich could fill in at 6 7 1 9 2or3 but DJ n miller should defiantly start at 6 and 7 if fit.

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