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| Quote: Standee "He doesn't work hard enough to play 2nd row.'"
It something he'd obviously have to work on "if" he ever moved into that position .
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| Quote: B0NES "It something he'd obviously have to work on "if" he ever moved into that position .'"
He's not that kind of player, as PAULM has said, he's a centre, never be anything else.
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| A few years ago, I think it was in the Sharpe era, there was a plan to move Yeamo to the 2nd row and he trained there all pre-season. then the usual injuries struck and they had to play him in the centres again and it never happened.
At the time it was said that Yeamo had one of the best "engines" of anyone at the club and relished more involvement and hard work.
I reckon he could go well there, Glilmour and others have moved from centre to second row successfully late in their careers.
Mind you, I still think he's the best cenntre we've got, for the timebeing
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| Quote: The Prof "A few years ago, I think it was in the Sharpe era, there was a plan to move Yeamo to the 2nd row and he trained there all pre-season. then the usual injuries struck and they had to play him in the centres again and it never happened.
At the time it was said that Yeamo had one of the best "engines" of anyone at the club and relished more involvement and hard work.
I reckon he could go well there, Glilmour and others have moved from centre to second row successfully late in their careers.
Mind you, I still think he's the best cenntre we've got, for the timebeing'"
You sure that was Yeamo, and not Whiting?
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| Like I said before, size isn't important for a second rower, it's generally strength and good defence and a few other components of fitness. People need to give there head a bang if they say he doesn't work hard enough to be a second rower. He hasn't been given the opportunity and that hasn't been proven. What centres can you look at and see they have decent work rate? I'm not saying he should be second row, he is best suited to be a centre but some people's excuses are stupid and clearly have poor knowledge of RL.
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| Quote: jehull "Like I said before, size isn't important for a second rower, it's generally strength and good defence and a few other components of fitness. People need to give there head a bang if they say he doesn't work hard enough to be a second rower. He hasn't been given the opportunity and that hasn't been proven. What centres can you look at and see they have decent work rate? I'm not saying he should be second row, he is best suited to be a centre but some people's excuses are stupid and clearly have poor knowledge of RL.'"
I'd suggest some people have way more knowledge of RL than you.
The "your'e wrong, because I'm right" argument is about 50 years out of date.
Yeaman is a good centre, he'll never be a 2nd row, and I doubt he'll ever want to be, it doesn't suit his persona.
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| Quote: Standee "You sure that was Yeamo, and not Whiting?'"
It was tried with Yeaman as well, but I think it was as far back as McRae's last year. IIRC, it was also said that his concentration over 80 minutes was not up to scratch (at that time) and playing shorter stints in the back row may have suited him better. It was an experiment rapidly put paid to by Eagar breaking his arm.
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| Don't subscribe to this 'doesn't work hard enough to be a 2nd row' theory.
What centre does?
I think he could make a very decent 2nd rower but we would have to see if he could manage the extra workload.
Not say he doesn't now so never will be able to.
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| Quote: davey37 "Don't subscribe to this 'doesn't work hard enough to be a 2nd row' theory.
What centre does?
I think he could make a very decent 2nd rower but we would have to see if he could manage the extra workload.
Not say he doesn't now so never will be able to.'"
I agree. There were many doubts about Whiting coping with the workload, and then again about the workload through the middle. You'll never know for sure until you try it.
Having said that, I don't personally think that he'd be as good a backrower as he has been a centre.
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| Many centre's go on to play in the second row so I don't think the transition is that great tbh. Also Carl Spacker was right , It was under McRea.
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| I notice that there are a couple of people on here that said the same about whiting, I honestley think he has all the attributes to make a very good backrow forward, he is strong and has good defence. Their isn't must difference in size to Liam Farrell who doesn't seem too bad does he?
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| Are centre and 2nd row that different these days? Beaver, tai, whitehead,Nero, Gilmour, senior, Delaney and our own whiting all recently changed or interchanged between. Yeamo runs good lines hard to put down and hits like any forward. An off season specifically with the goal of 2nd row ie specific training n putting a few pounds on and I imagine he'd go well. Generally 1 of the fittest in the team, so not sure how people can say he couldn't manage the work load,and a tough player that opposition players don't like playing against!
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| Quote: Standee "I'd suggest some people have way more knowledge of RL than you.
The "your'e wrong, because I'm right" argument is about 50 years out of date.
Yeaman is a good centre, he'll never be a 2nd row, and I doubt he'll ever want to be, it doesn't suit his persona.'"
Did I say I was right. My opinion, get over it. I just said size doesn't matter to be a second row. People have said he hasn't the size and work rate which is nonsense or do you agree with that? Personally i think it's nonsense.
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| Spot on Carl Spackler on all counts. The plan to put Yeaman in the pack was under McRea; it was said that he had concentration lapses; and it was Eager's injury that put paid to it. Better memory than me mate.
I still think Yeaman could do a job in the 2nd row, but with Ellis, Whiting, Westerman, Kent Hadlee and all the props who are comfortable in the back row, would we ned to move him? And that's if Tickle actually goes this time.
Another thought, if we are moving anyone from backs to forwards, what about Jason Crookes?
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| Yeaman would get ran over in the forwards, his tackling is based on power and how hard he hits. Against bigger forwards he wouldn't have that advantage.
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