O'Carroll was playing?

one thing that hasnt been mentioned, on the last try where was our full back? thought the kid had a absol brill game but maybe showed naivity in not tracking across the field,when rovers made the break he was standing more or less in the centre of the pitch when a seasoned full back would have moved across, not having a go at the lad as i think he had a wow of a game

Manu was massive today, I know you've signed Ellis, but Manu will be missed badly. Moa and Houghton were great too, I liked the look of Russell too, read that his positional play wasn't that good when you signed him but it was today. IMO Hull lack a stand off but you know that all ready. Your off loads are spot on too, can't understand why Rovers hardly do it.

I hear what your saying but whats the point of getting in or near the top four then not achieving anything which is what this squad will do. Id just let this season go and just look at the improvements in our structures and the way we play the hope for massive improvements next season. Now i know you have severe issues with the possible make up of next seasons team but until it happens all i can is who knows and lets hope the management have a few masterstrokes up their sleeves

It's worth pointing out that we have still have more points after 14 rounds than any season since 2004.

Hull were by far the better team.

As you say, the turning point was the try whilst Martim was being tended to. He was not n a position to contest the ball coming to him, they get possession against 12 men. You can take that on the chin.


That two officials cannot see a forward pass of that magnitude, in such an important area / time questions their ability.

Hull never crumbled. Widnes crumbled today. Hull were done by the officials on the Dobson try.

No one expects us to win anything this season though. I still think we're actually better than I thought we'd be before the season started. Tonight was an anomoly. Very rarely will be only have about 1/3 of posession in a half of rugby. With 50% of the ball we'd have won comfortably. With 2/3 of posession we'd have scored 50. I don't think there's a reason to be worried. P1ssed off that we lost yes, but worried, no

he was right behind hodgson, coming across on the diagonal, don't know when he set off 'cause he was flying but never got there in time

Nice

Problem is we didnt have equal share of posession. ok we looked to have the more stand out players but we were workin from deep too much.

Gentle said that the next 4 games were season defining or near to that point

London - scraped by

Rovers - average against average

Saints - could we lose ?

Wakefield/Agar away - unthinkable

Woke up still disappointed but trying to look at the positives.

We are a much better side than last season, at times yesterday we looked very good with the ball and are very aggressive in defence (too much at times), we have an excellent coach and some very good players coming through.

A couple of positions to strengthen and we will be challenging again IMO.

A must win game next week if we have any chance of finishing in the top 4.

Smailes has said Martin could have played his last game for Hull with a ruptured Achilles. Real shame for him.

So that's McKinnon and Martin gone, and with Ellis out of favour and Russell probably being recalled, not sure who we go with at FB now, either Horne or Whiting. If Seymour can stay fit, maybe replicate the Leeds game formation.

Saints game is taking on a real significance, got to be winning those sort of games at home.

Hopefully we can keep Russell for at least another month.

I would expect Westerman to Play at stand off otherwise.

Great chance for Crooks, should have played yesterday.

When a pass that Dan Marino would have been proud of is allowed to stand, it kind of makes the game pointless. Ganson was embarassing last night, and Dobson wants a good kicking, cheating little turd.