I do think the OP used Horne as an example and didn't slate him for this years performance.

Still there are plenty of mitigating factors with Horne in recent season which people always conveniently forget.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012 A comparison between Horne last season and Kevin Brown at Huddersfield. Now tell me that Horne isnt a creative halgf back

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2012 A comparison between Horne last season and Kevin Brown at Huddersfield. Now tell me that Horne isnt a creative halgf back

Conveniently forget?

So RA was right in risking more physical damage to RH by playing him whilst nowhere near fit ?

Did that decision help Hull FC or hinder us and RH ?

Once again missing the point.....Lets praise PG for NOT playing unfit players....Simples.

Firstly I actually backed up your original point.

Secondly you completely missed my point about the mitigating factors about his poor form. For example no halfback partner, playing injured etc.

I'm sure last year someone dug out Horne's stats, compared him against the other top stand offs in the league and he was right up there.

What a ridiculous thread.

Horne was man of the match against Bradford, in a team that contained Seymour, who I assume you think is brilliant based on his reputation. Against Warrington, Horne was in the top 3 of nearly everyone's man of the match selection. Why do we afford new signings almost bullet proof status, and yet look for reasons to put down our veterans? It will happen next match too, any of the new signings (especially overseas) will play an average game, and loads on here will post about how great they played, and yet the likes of Horney can play a great game, and the opposite will happen. I'm sure it's a matter of time before Horne has a poor game, and he'll be absolutely slated for it, but several others will have many poor games and get totally overlooked. This phenomenon has frustrated me for many years now.

couldn't have put it better myself

What an outstanding thread.

Think we need to establish that the days of using Horne, and Sharp, as a scapegoat are over.

Westerman was crap against wire.

I think we all need to forget about the last four seasons and who under performed etc and look forward to the future under the new owner, coach, players and staff. If in one or two seasons time nothing's changed then let's go mad, however under the ownership of AP and the coaching of PG I can already see big changes and the future looks promising.

If Horney carries on performing like he has the last 2 games I will be more than happy, consistency is the key for me some-thing he has lacked for several years, I hope the fact he has players waiting in the wings to get a shot and a new coach will help Horney to establish that much needed consistency.

I agree with the OP we should not be playing injured players or a player just for the sake of his name. I am hoping Gentle makes players earn their right to play! IMO that is the recipe to success.

As has been pointed out, there are several obvious reasons for his lack of consistency.

I personally do not consider them reasons, I consider them opinions....

Like mentioned I have been one of Horney's harshest critics,however I am more than happy with his present performance, and sincerely hope he can maintain this standard.