you and me both, I have to be honest, if Sky end up having another w@nkf35t over Tomkins then I'll not be watching it on TV either, the whole game is rapidly losing it's appeal, it's become incredibly boring as a sport.

Just to recap, in December 1999 when Hull Kingston Rovers were in administration, Hull City Council agreed to proceed with the acquisition of Hull KR’s property interest in Craven Park to allow Hull Kingston Rovers to trade.
In June 2000, the City Council granted a 250 year lease to the Gaingroup (now Kingston Community Developments Limited). A peppercorn annual rental is payable under those lease terms. The lease was also conditional upon KCD granting a sub lease to Hull KR in respect of the new Craven Park stadium.

So, in summary, the council own Craven Park, Rovers are beneficiaries of a peppercorn rental arrangement. And the council are taking now out a loan of £6m to fund the North Stand development. Of course, this latter project also requires ERDF funding of £2m+ to be signed off.

Just been watching Worcester v Gloucester ..... I'm still happy that our game is light-years in front entertainment wise.

Just to clarify, most of that £6m loan is not for Hull KR, but covers the contribution of other partners in the development. It will be Hull KR and the other partners that repay the loan.

For comparison, the council own the KC and Hull FC are beneficiaries of a rental arrangement that effectively loads all the business risk onto the stadium management company.

I genuinely forget - where did 'peppercorn rent', in the context of Craven Park originally come from? ie who said it - a councillor? Hudgell?

The other named party at this stage being Hull Training, who are part of Hull City Council.


Not sure why you're bringing FC into this - my response was to a direct question on the worst ground in the league that highlighted Craven Park's ownership arrangements. The risk point is a good one. The SMC bears the risk of managing the KC and its income streams, including FC's (£600k+ p.a.). In KR's case, the loan the council are taking out is underwritten by the council, so the council bears the risk.


Council documentation.

Belle Vue is obviously the worst currently in SL, very poor.




As a personal pov, the stadium that I least like visiting is the Galpharm. I just don't like it.

Personally I don't mind Belle Vue - always seems to be sunny when we play there (just as well given how exposed the terracing is). I'm not a fan of Wheldon Road.

For me its got to be Craven Park, I just think the way they treat us is disgraceful.

Mind you only been once and never been back.

Where are London Bronco's playing this year. I thought The Stoop was great, personally.

How many clubs would kill for a stadium identical to The Stoop?

Honestly, Reason Why I Dont Like The Stoop Is Because Its Wasted.. Good Stadium Yes, But For London To Play there i find it a bad stadium. Reasons Being, they never fill it.. theres no atmosphere unless away fans start singing.

The Stoop Is A Good Stadium, Just Its A Wasted Stadium In My Point Of View

Not really, Quins RU fill it.

But Thats Rugby Union.. Thats Not Helping Rugby League

I watched Oz v NZ RL at The Stoop, great game, great atmosphere and about 1k short of full.