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| I have no objections, but it doesn't affect me.
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| Quote: hullbg "I have no objections, but it doesn't affect me.'"
that is what I am trying to find out, people are objecting but not detailing why, which is often the case, if people have genuine concerns then fair enough, but if some local wannabe is making waves for self-purpose and people are getting caught in the tide then there is no genuine reason to have blocked the development.
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| I think the main objection is the increase in traffic down Chamberlain road, which to be fair is busy enough already.
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| Quote: Standee "that is what I am trying to find out, people are objecting but not detailing why, which is often the case, if people have genuine concerns then fair enough, but if some local wannabe is making waves for self-purpose and people are getting caught in the tide then there is no genuine reason to have blocked the development.'"
I haven't put the reasons why I wrote to the Council to object on this thread because the thread isn't about objections but would Hull FC be still involved. I can list the reasons if you really want me to but I assume (rightly or wrongly) that you don't live around here and know the area, Foredyke Stream cycle track, Pennine Cycle Trail, the owner of Brooklands as well as those that do so you probably aren't interested one way or another if Barratts build houses or not. Not having a dig, just don't feel the need to justify myself on here
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| Quote: Hull White Star "I haven't put the reasons why I wrote to the Council to object on this thread because the thread isn't about objections but would Hull FC be still involved. I can list the reasons if you really want me to but I assume (rightly or wrongly) that you don't live around here and know the area, Foredyke Stream cycle track, Pennine Cycle Trail, the owner of Brooklands as well as those that do so you probably aren't interested one way or another if Barratts build houses or not. Not having a dig, just don't feel the need to justify myself on here
so, the building of houses is going to close those access routes, or is it going to just cause them to be rationalised and specified.
when making objections to anything you should, as a matter of course, expect to have those objections questioned, it is how planning works. Wether I live in the area or not is irrelevant, I am entitled to an opinion, and that opinion is that, as yet, I haven't seen a single valid, justified and evidenced objection to the development.
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| Quote: Standee "so, the building of houses is going to close those access routes, or is it going to just cause them to be rationalised and specified.
when making objections to anything you should, as a matter of course, expect to have those objections questioned, it is how planning works. Wether I live in the area or not is irrelevant, I am entitled to an opinion, and that opinion is that, as yet, I haven't seen a single valid, justified and evidenced objection to the development.'"
If you want to see my list of objections (and those of 500 others) than they are all documented at the Planning Office at Kingston House, Bond Street for the public to see.
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| Quote: Hull White Star "If you want to see my list of objections (and those of 500 others) than they are all documented at the Planning Office at Kingston House, Bond Street for the public to see.
so, in effect, you're either saying that they don't really stand up to scrutiny (hence not posting them on here) or that I have no right of opinion as I can't get to Bond Street?
do you have an opinion on the 50p tax rate?
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| Quote: Standee "so, in effect, you're either saying that they don't really stand up to scrutiny (hence not posting them on here) or that I have no right of opinion as I can't get to Bond Street?
do you have an opinion on the 50p tax rate?'"
Standee, with all due respect there is only one reason and one reason alone you want to know my objections and that is to rip it to shreads and I am not getting into that with you. I have not posted them on here because it would be thread drift, the thread is about whether Hull FC will still be involved now the plans have been given the go ahead, plain and simple. I'll debate that with you till the cows come home but not about why I objected to something in a city that you don't even live in.
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| Quote: Hull White Star "Standee, with all due respect there is only one reason and one reason alone you want to know my objections and that is to rip it to shreads and I am not getting into that with you. I have not posted them on here because it would be thread drift, the thread is about whether Hull FC will still be involved now the plans have been given the go ahead, plain and simple. I'll debate that with you till the cows come home but not about why I objected to something in a city that you don't even live in.'"
so, you are admitting that your objections are sentimental and not based on reality, that is fine, and not unusual.
the insular nature of Hull and some of it's folk is quite laughable, I am genuinely interested in the objections that people have, but I doubt very much they go beyond nimbyism and whistful memories, and if they do, then I'll agree and applaud.
It's 2012, maybe some people need a reality check?
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| Quote: Standee "so, you are admitting that your objections are sentimental and not based on reality, that is fine, and not unusual.
the insular nature of Hull and some of it's folk is quite laughable, I am genuinely interested in the objections that people have, but I doubt very much they go beyond nimbyism and whistful memories, and if they do, then I'll agree and applaud.
It's 2012, maybe some people need a reality check?'"
I am not admitting anything - I have valid and reasonable objections. The one bit of information I will give you is that my objections were exactly the same as the other 500 objections, yes I did look through them. If you knew the area you would know the objections because they are quite obvious.
I find it quite laughable that you can put words into my mouth and tell me my objections were sentimental - if you are so desperate to find out what me and the other 500 objectors objected to then go and find out for yourself, the information is there in the public domain.
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| Quote: Hull White Star "I am not admitting anything - I have valid and reasonable objections. The one bit of information I will give you is that my objections were exactly the same as the other 500 objections, yes I did look through them. If you knew the area you would know the objections because they are quite obvious.
I find it quite laughable that you can put words into my mouth and tell me my objections were sentimental - if you are so desperate to find out what me and the other 500 objectors objected to then go and find out for yourself, the information is there in the public domain.'"
and your faith in your objections is so strong that you wont post them for scrutiny?
as I said, I'm interested to know what the objections are, but you refuse to tell us, so this thread is effectively dead.
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| Don't take it personally HWS. Standee has had a morning of being 'bullied' over on the Sin Bin
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| Quote: Neville Bartos "Don't take it personally HWS. Standee has had a morning of being 'bullied' over on the Sin Bin'"
and the conversation on the Sin Bin is relevant, how?
maybe you should comment on things you know about, like, errr, errrm, no, crack on, otherwise you'll be bored.
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| I live on Chamberlain Road, and my concern is traffic and congestion.
Beyond that, I guess it does boil down to sentimentality and the inherent greed of some people. What happened to the area is quite sad, and IMO would be a much better development for sports pitches.
At the end of the day Sergi will gain trade in his shop, and so therefore I think that this is more about the community wishes, rather than anything else or personal gain.
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| Quote: hull smallears "I live on Chamberlain Road, and my concern is traffic and congestion.
Beyond that, I guess it does boil down to sentimentality and the inherent greed of some people. What happened to the area is quite sad, and IMO would be a much better development for sports pitches.
At the end of the day Sergi will gain trade in his shop, and so therefore I think that this is more about the community wishes, rather than anything else or personal gain.'"
how much extra traffic do you think it's going to create, is congestion already a problem?
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