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| How on earth did some of you believe he had off field medical problems, well suppose he kind of did and now its out in the open.
Its like tv soap at FC over recent years, hard to believe some of the story lines that have come out!
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| if there was ever a case of starting with a small lie and then realising you had to then keep adding bigger ones to it..
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| Quote: Kosh "I suggest you read the documents available from the link before making any further daft comments. Long did nothing wrong at all - hence he hasn't been implicated in the affair. All he did was give Gleeson a supplement he was already using and that had been cleared by that muppet Cooper.'"
I've read it and my comment isn't daft. One brain dead moron who couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website passes on a banned supplement to his brain dead moron mate who also couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website, all under the watch of a third brain dead moron who couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website (or decided he would ignore what it says).
Long DID do something wrong - he was using a banned substance which he hadn't checked out, then gave it to his mate which has resulted in him losing his job.
Feel very sorry for Glees though - clearly not the brightest and it's cost him throughout his career.
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "How on earth did some of you believe he had off field medical problems, well suppose he kind of did and now its out in the open.
Its like tv soap at FC over recent years, hard to believe some of the story lines that have come out!'"
He could still have mental health issues alongside this debacle. Or this debacle could have brought on his stress related problems.
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| Quote: Kosh "It's not clear if it was his initial idea but it certainly seems like he facilitated and coordinated the false statements etc. What an idiot. He should have sacked Cooper for failing to properly check the supplement and thrown Gleeson on the mercy of the UKDA panel. Worst case would have been a similar length ban for Gleeson.
The irony is that nobody actually set out to break any rules to begin with. I actually feel sorry for Gleeson as he was given incorrect advice - albeit second hand - and didn't think he was doing anything wrong.'" Kosh if thing had be done properly the ban just might not have happened and told UKDA that the man had a problem with his weight ..Somebody should have known
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| Quote: Kosh "
The irony is that nobody actually set out to break any rules to begin with. I actually feel sorry for Gleeson as he was given incorrect advice - albeit second hand - and didn't think he was doing anything wrong.'"
Its quite scary that one persons advice can potentially ruin one or more careers. What if he had (did?) give the same advice to any number of players? Perhaps clubs should put in place a second opinion to cover themselves even if that's someone at the RFL, external practice or even another club.
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| So does this mean that Sean Long was also using OxiElite Pro after he was given the OK from Cooper??
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "So does this mean that Sean Long was also using OxiElite Pro after he was given the OK from Cooper??'"
It certainly seems that way, why else would he ask Cooper about it if not.
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| Quote: hullbg "It certainly seems that way, why else would he ask Cooper about it if not.'"
Lucky for him he was injured a lot and didnt play enough games whereby he could have been tested then!
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| Sean Long really was an inspired signing for your club
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| Quote: Pookie "Its quite scary that one persons advice can potentially ruin one or more careers. What if he had (did?) give the same advice to any number of players? Perhaps clubs should put in place a second opinion to cover themselves even if that's someone at the RFL, external practice or even another club.'"
Was just thinking the same thing. The incompetence of the three involved could have already had an affect on the rugby community with more players (possibly) using it.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I've read it and my comment isn't daft. One brain dead moron who couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website passes on a banned supplement to his brain dead moron mate who also couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website, all under the watch of a third brain dead moron who couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website (or decided he would ignore what it says).
Long DID do something wrong - he was using a banned substance which he hadn't checked out, then gave it to his mate which has resulted in him losing his job.
Feel very sorry for Glees though - clearly not the brightest and it's cost him throughout his career.'"
Long had the supplement cleared by the relevant person at the club. It was Cooper who made the mistake.
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| Quote: Kosh "Long had the supplement cleared by the relevant person at the club. It was Cooper who made the mistake.'"
Long and Gleeson played alongside someone who, in a VERY high profile way, advertised that it is a player's responsibility to check what he is taking and not to rely on club staff.
Conditioner - take this
Player - what is it?
Conditioner - It's X
Player - I'll take it tomorrow once I've checked it out, or I'll pull out my iphone and check it out on the WADA app
Tomorrow comes, player doesn't take it, conditioner gets sacked, player gets on with his career.
Players are educated about their responsibilities in this respect ad infinitum. Gleeson is a fool - doubly so if he's taking ANYTHING handed to him by Sean Long without checking it out!
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| Quote: Kosh "Carefully. Under the UK's somewhat draconian libel laws it's still possible to libel folk who have been found guilty of an offence. And speculation concerning any other people who may be implicated is still off limits.'"
Bah, board ate my response again.
You can only libel someone if you say something thats not true and they can prove it.
Anyway, I can't believe I defended Rule in the past, this has shown him up as arrogant, dishonest and treating us and the authorities with contempt, I am glad Gleason and Cooper rolled on him. I don't know if he has a job yet but after the shame he has brought on our club I hope this makes it very difficult for him.
As said elsewhere the penalty for MHA was only 6 months for Kolo Toure, was it really worth trying to cover up.
Shame UKDA doesn't stretch to RU, by the terms of his ban he shouldn't be playing for them either.
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