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| Quote: fcandy "So by your logic, if Mr Agar was successful with Hull FC, even if Mr Webster was a yes man, that would make him a great assistant coach then? Regardless of the input he had, by association he must be great? Don’t get me wrong, I’m as happy as any fan Agar has finally gone. However, people assume too much on here and state opinion as fact when in most cases it’s not founded on any evidence whatsoever.'"
I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.
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| Quote: GEvans75 "I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
I think you may have missed my point slightly, I’m not saying you were wrong, it’s just that your opinion is based on assumption rather than anything else. That’s what I was challenging. Anyway we both want the best for Hull FC and I actually agree that perhaps a coaching change from top to bottom is the answer.
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| Quote: GEvans75 "I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
You should not be online while your driving
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| Quote: GEvans75 "I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
I know the club have high regard for Webbo.Who is to say he won't have success as Gentles assistant.Only time will tell if it works out for him but i do think he deserves a chance working with a new coach.
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| Quote: black and Whiteley "You should not be online while your driving'"
I bet your fun at parties.
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| Would like the decisions on the backroom staff to be down Gentle to sort out. We may see some movement in that area in November when he arrives. Hard to judge Webster as we don't know the situation, very hard for someone to get to aggressive trying to get their opinions across and change things especially when the head coach has a history of getting rid of his assistants.
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| Quote: fcandy "I think you may have missed my point slightly, I’m not saying you were wrong, it’s just that your opinion is based on assumption rather than anything else. That’s what I was challenging. Anyway we both want the best for Hull FC and I actually agree that perhaps a coaching change from top to bottom is the answer.'"
I do understand what you was saying but what you said did involve ifs and buts.
But yes your right we both do what the same thing and with AP we might get it.
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| Quote: hullbg "Would like the decisions on the backroom staff to be down Gentle to sort out. We may see some movement in that area in November when he arrives. Hard to judge Webster as we don't know the situation, very hard for someone to get to aggressive trying to get their opinions across and change things especially when the head coach has a history of getting rid of his assistants.'"
Agreed, If Hull FC announce that Webster is staying after everything has been looked at between Pearson, McRae and Gentle and they feel he is worth keeping then that is good enough for me. They are in a far better position to judge his coaching abilities from working within the club than us.
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| Quote: GEvans75 "I feel like i'm on a roundabout.
Agar was sacked because of performances Webster was his assistant coach, since Webster arrived I have seen no evidence that Webster offered anything to us that resulted in our performances improving. No change the same old dross.
So prior to Webster dross with Webster dross nothing changed.'"
You've clearly not been watching then. The style of rugby has been far better this season, not 5 drives and a kick like it was previously.
Neither I or you (despite your cliam of evidence) and or anyone else on here knows the contribution that Webbo has made. I'll wait for Gentle to decide as he will know exactly what he wants from a no.2 and what Webster has to offer.
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| Quote: PAUL M "You've clearly not been watching then. The style of rugby has been far better this season, not 5 drives and a kick like it was previously.
Neither I or you (despite your cliam of evidence) and or anyone else on here knows the contribution that Webbo has made. I'll wait for Gentle to decide as he will know exactly what he wants from a no.2 and what Webster has to offer.'"
My evidence is watching a grade A licensed team struggle to finish 8th and then get hammered at Leeds.
A team coached by Agar & Webster what more evidence do I need to form an opinion?
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| I know alot of my red and white aquaintances (can't call them friends LOL) always say it was Webster that laid the foundations at Rovers to get them into SL which they achieved under Morgan. Many still feel he was the instrumental figure in getting them into SL.
That coming from fans of Rovers speaks alot about Webster TBF instead of talkiing down the impact he had at their because he joined us.
If Pearson, Gentle & McRae feel he is the one they want then at this stage who are we to argue at present?
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| Quote: GEvans75 "My evidence is watching a grade A licensed team struggle to finish 8th and then get hammered at Leeds.
A team coached by Agar & Webster what more evidence do I need to form an opinion?'"
Agar rightly has to take the blame for that. We don't know what Webster's ideas where and how much Agar listened to them.
Tbh I would prefer a clean sweep but that is not to say Webbo would not do a cracking job under Gentle.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Agar rightly has to take the blame for that. We don't know what Webster's ideas where and how much Agar listened to them.
Tbh I would prefer a clean sweep but that is not to say Webbo would not do a cracking job under Gentle.'"
I would just give up trying to be honest
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| Quote: black and Whiteley "I would just give up trying to be honest
Why does he need to change my opinion?
Forums work better when posters have differing opinions.
I think Webster should leave others don't= discussion.
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| I've heard he's going. I'm not sure whether its a good thing or not
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