Shame they dont. broadcast Agar's post match interview at 11pm,

Good bedtime listening!!!

It's ridicuous with them having AM, FM, DAB and online that their coverage finishes within about 15 minutes of the game finishing. Presuably their football coverage on a Saturday will wind up at 5.15? Yeah, right.

I can feel an email coming on.

See what time they finish next Friday night when City entertain blackpool.

I used to like murdock but he's becoming as embarrassing in his praise of all things Hull as phil clarke is with wigan

It is not just Doc, many people who have behind the scenes access and ex players all seem to see what he is doing and agree with the most of it.

Their tactics were bang on last night, something picked up by Mcrae and Morgan as well as the two idiots. How did you want them to beat Wigan, 5 drives and a kick and hope that Tom Briscoegot some interception tries? As was mentioned by the SKY team the only way to beat Wigan is play for repeat sets in their 30mtrs and build pressure, not trying to score off each play but to just keep moving them around from side to side and let their slide defence mix up.

The problem was that at times Hull dropped ball and took dumb options. I cannot for the life of me understand why that would be Agar's fault when he is sat in the stands?

Hull play a high tempo attacking game when they can but execution is poor.

Rich Agar shouldn't have to Coach basic skills to International players.

The question as to why they are playing so dumb at times can only lie with the players. Confidence? Unhappiness? Lack of interest?

I dont see how a guy from Cumbria giving his honest opinion having played the game at the highest level can be shot down by so many.

Typical black and white,can only see what he wants too.!

This is the problem, we try to play high tempo but as you say our execution is poor. Surely any coach can see this (we all can in the stands!) If you can see it, then do something about it, learn to adapt to what we can do well. But agar is not up to it.

And as for Murdock, i think he is a decent commentator, but he is becoming embarrassing with his defence for Agar.
Murdock said last night that the Wigan players have bought into Maguire's work ethic. The question needs to be asked why havent our lot bought into Agar's vision, if all the behind the scenes people value him so highly? I honestly dont think the players share the same confidence, they look unhappy and to be fair dont look to interested.

Change is needed BIG TIME

I'm not sure if your post is a genuine one or an amusing parody of the kind of sycophantic nonsense that Murdock comes out with. But, assuming it's genuine, perhaps you could answer a few questionsneeds to be done[/i to beat Wigan, do you think that a man should keep his job purely for getting the theory right? Are you unable to acknowledge that the real skill in elite level sports coaching is often not in knowing what to do, but in how to get the players to actually do it and do it consistently?
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'Rich Agar shouldn't have to Coach basic skills to International players'[/i - This is precisely the sort of stuff supporters of Cullen used to come out with if you recall? Tony Smith came in with a different approach (remember him falling out with Thackray because he wanted to change his catching technique) and look what happened.

[i'I dont see how a guy from Cumbria giving his honest opinion having played the game at the highest level can be shot down by so many.'[/i Because when you say things like 'FC play the same way as the origin teams' and base your opinions on everything but statistics and results then you leave yourself open to ridicule, regardless of what part of the country you hail from and what you used to do for a career. Are you unable to recognise that fact simply because you too are pro-Agar?

Finally, how can you possibly justify blaming the players when every single one of them has been signed or re-signed by the man in charge, and he has remained the one constant throughout a 4-year period of abject failure? I can only assume that it's the same sort of bias that allows you to come on here criticising Brian Noble's coaching abilities yet singing the praises of Iestyn Harris', despite the fact that a quick glance at their respective record sheets shows that what your saying couldn't be further from the truth?

Who signed these players? Who works with them every day? Whose [iresponsibility[/i is it to ensure that they are happy, confident, and able to implement his instructions? It's Agar's JOB to sort these things out and he has spectacularly failed to do so over a period of several years. If he isn't up to it then he should walk. Simples.

Oh - and while I'm at it, who is it who picks ludicrous benches and makes idiotic interchanges?

He wasn`t that Black and White jumping around in the West Stand supporting Rovers in 2007!
Only Black and White for employment purposes with the BBC.

The fact is Kosh,if he were a football coach,he would be long gone.

I kind of agree with what you have said in the first paragraph about knowing what is wrong but not being able to implement the actions to resolve it.

That is probably the biggest single fault with Rich Agar.

However I cannot have you blaming Agar for re-signing these players You do realise how was doing all of that for the last three years dont you? She has gone now and perhaps some of the signings will belong to Rich and not Kath.

As for Iest and Noble, Iestyn hardly had the same sort of chance as Noble did with Crusaders, especially as it was his first year in a Head Coach role.

There have been numerous problems faced by Iestyn. Add into that Noble had Jon Sharp and Iest as his backroom team and anybody who played that year will tell you Iestyn and Sharp were the Coaches, Noble didn't do a great deal.

So when does Agar begin to be accountable for what happens on the pitch?.

Years 1 & 2 - Not his team,injuries & Kaths involvement
Year 3 - Injuries & Kaths involvement
Year 4 - Kath's involvement

Should we give him another 3 years before we judge him?. Has everything got to be perfect off the pitch before he gets it right?. Don't other coaches have issues that need to be overcome, in order to create a winning culture?.

The one constant in 4 years of failure, & going backwards on the pitch, is Agar. End of story.

Reading some of the vitriol on here you'd think the Doc was responsible for poor team performances. If you think he's biased and blinkered about Agar then do the sensible thing and turn it off, don't listen. None of the BBC's commentators can be too critical about coaches as they need to maintain a working relationship with the clubs.

On a personal note, I like the Doc and think his positive slant on Hull FC makes a chalk and cheese contrast to the HKR bias of Gwillem Lloyd, Nick Pinkney, Lee Richardson and Chris Park.