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| When a coach has been around as long as Agar has the team will always play in their image, good or bad. Our team is all effort and no brains.
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| Quote: Garry Brindley Esq. "When a coach has been around as long as Agar has the team will always play in their image, good or bad. Our team is all effort and no brains.'"
Phil Gould once said " The way a team plays, reflects the personality of the coach!!"
Says it all really!!!
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| Put it this way, If Wigan had have had as many chances as we did in the 20, they would have rattled up another 30 points. We look clueless in attack still. At one point, I wanted a player to run away from their try line to the 20 as we actually look more dangerous from deeper. We get in the 10 and hardly ever score.
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| Quote: Kosh "Up to now I've managed to not rate Agar as a coach without actively disliking him as a person. Over the course of the last few weeks I've developed itchy knuckles whenever I see his face or hear his voice. I just want to give him a slap or a good shake when he comes out with his increasingly unrealistic wafflings.'"
My feelings exactly. 3+ years is a long period of relentless disappointment. He's like a Dementor from Harry Potter, sucking the soul out of the club and the spirit out of its fans. Wish he'd sod off and soon.
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| We must be reaching the end game of Agar's tenure now.
He has assembled his own team & had a relatively healthy squad. And yet, we've gone backwards. He can tell us where we have gone wrong each week, but seems unable to rectify the problems.
As soon as we go 2 scores down in a game, you know there's not a chance we can come back to win.
I have faith in AP to do the right thing.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "We must be reaching the end game of Agar's tenure now.
He has assembled his own team & had a relatively healthy squad. And yet, we've gone backwards. He can tell us where we have gone wrong each week, but seems unable to rectify the problems.
As soon as we go 2 scores down in a game, you know there's not a chance we can come back to win.
I have faith in AP to do the right thing.'"
Pretty much how I see it and think it will happen. Going backwards from last year is unacceptable with what IMO is a better squad and with definitely fewer injuries overall. He knows what's wrong for the most part but cannot fix it and continues to make the same mistakes particularly with bench selection. A change is needed and I think it will come.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "We must be reaching the end game of Agar's tenure now.
He has assembled his own team & had a relatively healthy squad. And yet, we've gone backwards. He can tell us where we have gone wrong each week, but seems unable to rectify the problems.
As soon as we go 2 scores down in a game, you know there's not a chance we can come back to win.
I have faith in AP to do the right thing.'"
I very much hope you are right. My concerns are that Rule has been Agar's biggest advocate, has staunchly refused to acknowledge the importance of the coach anyway, and is Pearson's main adviser. Also the worry that if he were to replace Agar, he might think the current national coach would be a good idea.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I very much hope you are right. My concerns are that Rule has been Agar's biggest advocate, has staunchly refused to acknowledge the importance of the coach anyway, and is Pearson's main adviser. Also the worry that if he were to replace Agar, he might think the current national coach would be a good idea.'"
The one good thing is that AP said he was due to talk to Agar last week and referred to him as "the most important man at the club", not Agar but the coach. That's an improvement on Rules belief.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Pretty much how I see it and think it will happen. Going backwards from last year is unacceptable with what IMO is a better squad and with definitely fewer injuries overall. He knows what's wrong for the most part but cannot fix it and continues to make the same mistakes particularly with bench selection. A change is needed and I think it will come.'"
The scary thing is that I think Kath & the previous board would have been happy for him to remain in charge.
Scrapping for 8th place is pretty depressing for a club of our size.
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| Quote: PAUL M "The one good thing is that AP said he was due to talk to Agar last week and referred to him as "the most important man at the club", not Agar but the coach. That's an improvement on Rules belief.'"
That is encouraging. Hopefully Pearson's independent viewpoint will allow him to review the evidence before him which is that going into a fifth season of Agar will not deliver silverware. Or a Challenge Cup match unless we draw a Championship club. Or a play-off berth.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "
I have faith in AP to do the right thing.'"
I did have, but it's starting to wane now. We need an indication of better things now, not at the end of the season.
If the early part of next week brings no hints of new things to come, I'll start believing Agar's position was a condition of sale.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I very much hope you are right. My concerns are that Rule has been Agar's biggest advocate, has staunchly refused to acknowledge the importance of the coach anyway, and is Pearson's main adviser. Also the worry that if he were to replace Agar, he might think the current national coach would be a good idea.'"
Was Rule taking that viewpoint on behalf of his old employers though?. Maybe the agenda will change now AP is here, & Rule will have to (or be able to) implement a change in direction. We always knew that if Agar left, he would just be replaced by another cheap, easy, option under the old BOD.
Now AP is here, I'm hopeful we'll aim higher coaching wise.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "The scary thing is that I think Kath & the previous board would have been happy for him to remain in charge.
Scrapping for 8th place is pretty depressing for a club of our size.'"
How utterly wrong is it that I was hoping we wouldn't win tonight, and hope Rovers overtake us tomorrow, simply because it might result in some action? Absolutely ridiculous that it's come to this. I'll shut up now - morphing into Jake the Peg.
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| Quote: WormInHand "I did have, but it's starting to wane now. We need an indication of better things now, not at the end of the season.
If the early part of next week brings no hints of new things to come, I'll start believing Agar's position was a condition of sale.'"
I always thought the change would come at the end of the season to be honest. AP would need a bit of time to assess things & look at all aspects of the club.
He wants to become the biggest Super League franchise. He wants regular finals. He wants crowds to increase. He won't settle for just competing but getting beat.
That's why I think he'll end up doing the right thing.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "How utterly wrong is it that I was hoping we wouldn't win tonight, and hope Rovers overtake us tomorrow, simply because it might result in some action? Absolutely ridiculous that it's come to this. I'll shut up now - morphing into Jake the Peg.
I know what you mean!. You only wish for it to happen because you care so much for the club.
I'm looking forward to Agar explaining the 9th place finish at the end of the season though!
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