Exactly, something like that. There's no use having clubs go to the wall in the pursuit of a SL payday, and ATEOTD, that's in the players' interests. Probably an assessment of manageable debt wouldn't go amiss either.

Yep, I think i'm sold, mate.

It makes sense. Sadly, that means the herberts at Red Hall are very unlikely to do anything like it.

I like the idea that the RFL can revoke licenses, but the game needs P&R back. Kids came through before, don't see any reason why they wouldn't.

With the reducing overseas players the kids should come through, there's no other option now really. It had gotten to a bad state with the numbers of journeymen coming over, but that's hopefully been addressed now.

Why would it? If they were consistantly better than the likes of Widnes/Leigh/Fax what right does anyone have to say they shouldn't take their place? If they are the champions would they struggle less than any of the others on any given matchday?

I still don't see that Wakey dropping to the championship is a gimme. If we did go to 15 (or even 16 clubs as per the old 1st division) then I'd still be wanting top 8 but with a straight knock out 1v8 2v7 3v6 4v5, that gives you three weeks at the end of the season. I'd also want to see more prestige put on the 'champions' aka 'league leaders', but that will never happen in a million years.
And yes promotion and relegation does add more incentive each and every season not just for those wanting to get up but makes it important for the relegation threatened teams too.

Agreed, and I like the idea you and spackler have sorted. Gets my vote.

Are they definatley binning 2 teams off?
I always said they'd make it a 16 team competition.

Been confirmed that it will stay with 14 teams on Sky Sports News, personally I think that promotion/relegation will not come back until we are able to have the Championship as a full time division (which will probably never happen). If we could have 2 full time division the gap in quality should lessen allowing promoted teams a better chance of surviving in the SL.
Whilst I think that having no P/L is a bit harsh on teams like Fev who will probably win the league again but havent got a chance of meeting the criteria yet, it does help with the youth development in some teams, if you look at Cas there youth development has been good but if P/L was still in place would they have stayed with these players when they went on their losing streak or would they have opted for signing old, experienced players to help them out of their slump?

Agree 100%

who ever gets the lowest crowds should go

kr hudd or wakey

as london n wales will saty

Yes,instead of allowing us to blood and develop young players and give them a chance,all we've done is go backwards as a club while we attempt to blood and develop a coach at the cost of everything else. It clearly isn't working but nobody at the top wants or is willing to admit they've knacked up.

why should it be based on just attendance?

This is why this franchise system is a complete farce, no one knows what the criteria is, its a joke, a team like Hudds who are currently riding high in SL sholud be slung out due to low crowds! If that happended the sport would be looked upon as an even bigger joke than it is already.
The only fair way is one up one down, who ever finishes top replaces whoever finishes bottom, simple, or even a 2 game play off between top and bottom home and away, winner stays up or comes up, that would fair and pretty exciting too.

That's the problem we have.

I can't see P+R returning until they is two fully functionally full time leagues. I'm not a fan of extending the league at the moment, I think we play enough games as it is and players who are called up for internationals very rarely get an off season. Which IMO is no good in helping players improve.

I'd be in favor of two ten full time leagues for the time being with the view to adding to them over a period of time.