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Quote: PAUL M "He has served his ban and should be left along to get on with playing again. He's a top player who made a mistake.'"


How was it a mistake? He deliberately took the drug, and it's not like he didn't know the consequences of getting caught.

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If he drove a bus for a living he would still be out of work

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If he drove a bus for a living he wouldn't have had to have taken a drugs test.

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Quote: Catalancs "If he drove a bus for a living he wouldn't have had to have taken a drugs test.'"
Yes he would the big bus Companies have Drink/Drugs Procedure ..Hull Stagecoah was part of a test with Stagecoach Manchester over ten years ago that started the Procedure and the lads have told me it's still in force

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To say I dislike drug users would be an understatement. What I can say though is that Hock has served a ban. We can argue till we are blue in the face about the length of that ban. Some say it should be longer others say it was harsh. The facts are he has served his ban and Wigan have stuck by him. I hope he repays their faith.

What has got my back up though is the way in which he has been lorded as a returning prodigal son. The bottom line is that he was classed by the RFL judiciary as a drugs cheat hence his ban. It should not be a celebrated thing that he has returned to the top side in the country the minute his ban is up. It sends out totally the wrong message and the RFL press have been wrong imo to treat it as a thing to celebrate.

I hope I don't see any kids with Wigan shirts on with Hock on the back (unless they are actually called Hock)

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Quote: World of Redboy "How was it a mistake? He deliberately took the drug, and it's not like he didn't know the consequences of getting caught.'"

Don't think Paul was suggesting that it was an accident, rather that it was a mistake to make the decisions that he did.

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Get off your high horses! Recreational drug use is a big part of society these days and just because its legal it doesnt mean its ok. There are many recreational drugs that are not as harmful as say Tobacco or Alcohol but these are legal so must be ok yeah? icon_lol.gif

Recreational drug use is much more rife in professional sport than you would also imagaine too though its fairly easy to avoid being caught if your careful about when you do it and Garerth Hock was just unlucky in getting caught when many others get away with it every week in rugby and professional football ala Johns, Merson etc

Anyway he's served his time and is now free to play rugby and i have no problem with him doing so and please remember this is recreational drugs he took and NOT performancing enhancing. BIG DIFFERENCE for all you 'just say no-ers' out there!

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Quote: World of Redboy "How was it a mistake? He deliberately took the drug, and it's not like he didn't know the consequences of getting caught.'"


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I mean he made a mistake, took the wrong decision. I know he deliberately took the drug, i'm not stupid.

He got caught and served imo an overly long ban and is now back playing and should be left to get on with it.

How the media or Sky deal with his return is out of his control, he can only get on with training and playing games.

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Quote: PAUL M "

Looks like he's been doing plenty of gym work alright. icon_eek.gif

He looked some size unit the bit I saw of him on SL Show last night.

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Quote: withernsea zebra "Looks like he's been doing plenty of gym work alright.
Aye, always been a big guy but I guess with little else to do than work off your anger/furstration in the gym for 2 years he was always going to come back a bit bigger. Could be a big player for England in the 4 nations.

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Quote: PAUL M "Aye, always been a big guy but I guess with little else to do than work off your anger/furstration in the gym for 2 years he was always going to come back a bit bigger. Could be a big player for England in the 4 nations.'"


Yep.

I wouldn't have argued if we'd have managed to get our hands on him when we were having a sniff around him.

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A 2 year ban is fair, he's kept his nose clean (no pun intended), he's a good player who is now very lucky to have a 2nd chance. But......

1) for the Wigan fans to give him a standing ovation like he'd just come back from a major illness or war is baffling

2) for Eddie and Stevo to brush it under the carpet and joke so trivial about it is wrong.

Both send out the wrong message to kids.

Anyone else feel a bit for the player who has been shoved aside to allow Hock to return?

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Quote: withernsea zebra "Yep.

I wouldn't have argued if we'd have managed to get our hands on him when we were having a sniff around him.'"



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the guy has served his ban well, not gotten into any more trouble, put his head down and done the work to get back into shape and into the team,
for his sheer work ethic, i belived he needed a clap, the prodical son has returned,
You wouldnt be moaning if gleeson comes back from his second stint away, infact im sure u will be standing up clapping him too

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