Don't think anyone on here is going too overboard based on one derby win. Yes, Friday was brilliant (always is to beat the old enemy) but we've had too many false dawns over the last eighteen months for anyone to believe that all our problems are magically sorted and it's next stop Old Trafford.

Even the "positive" brigade on this forum will admit that there are some fundamental flaws in the set-up which will not be remedied by a quick fix.
At the start of the season I said that I would enjoy the victories as they came around and I would shrug off the defeats likewise. My doubts about the clubs role in the bigger picture of SL (Genuine Grand Final contenders, a side to be feared and respected) remain, but like the majority on here I'm rather enjoying this weekend and will continue to do so for as long as it lasts .

As much as i enjoyed the derby win, and it was a great win, i still dont think we've turned a corner, lets get real, we beat a very poor Rovers team, a team that was in turmoil leading up to the match, when we win the teams that are up there, the likes of Wire, Leeds,Wigan etc, then ill start to think maybe we are on the up!
As it is now, Agar has a stay of execution on the back of a good derby win, I fully expect normal service tomorrow and the following week!! The joys of being an FC fan!!!

die hard supporter then -- not heard of innocent until proven guilty i suppose - your obviously whiter than white - never sent a dodgy email or text to anyone i suppose

as much as it pains me to say, and he is a thug, thats for sure, a racist is a bit far, hes made a comment in the heat of the moment, but opposition fans are going to milk it for all its worth!!

I agree mate, id have probably said the same!!! but if the boot was on the other foot, what do you think Rovers fans would be doing?? they'd be lapping it up for all its worth, and you know it!!

Should be biting a pillow on D Wing for it

There's a cumulative element to this, isn't there? Wasn't he in trouble whilst in the army? Then the infamous head-kicking incident, now this. Add in the number of high shots he's put in over the years, trips to Red Hall of a Tuesday evening, and incidents like the one fingered salute to us in Cardiff and you can see why people question his integrity. I have to say I do find it surprising that, after all the general nastiness he's displayed on and off the pitch on Rovers' watch, that the majority on the unofficial forum respond with applauding emoticons the view that he's misunderstood and hope he'll be in red and White for many years to come. The particularly ironic overlay is the hysterical bile reserved for Yeaman for a bit of badge-kissing when you are sponsoring - quite literally - a criminal who is again under police investigation.

yer i reckon the majority would be the same im sure -- but there are some decent fans amongst us both you know - but some of the comments are like i say OTT - facebook page that states ben should be jailed for instance some of the comments are not called for -- and when you know some that have commented and what they have done themselves texts etc - well shall we say pot calling kettle

Did you actually see his comments? This is way beyond some "dodgy email or text", it's racial hatred.

I can't see him lasting much longer to be honest, as you say there's a cumulative element to it all and with the RFLs attempts to clean things up it will make his position at rovers more and more untenable. I think it is a shame
If I'm honest, not for him personally (who I cannot stand) but because he is a genuinely passionate player who gives all and is an asset on the pitch, but cannot match his on field attributes with a decent off field persona. I'm not saying all players are angels (far from it, it sort of makes them the personalities they are to compete how they do) but there are limits and even if the most recent allegations are not proven he has demonstrated he pushes the boundaries to say the least.

What did he actually say ?

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