so agar himself states that should hull lose the buck stops with him, then after defeat radford says its down to the players, spin, spin and spin, im getting dizzy with all this spin, i know as employees they will tow the company line but we aint f@cking stupid, and we wont buy into it. too late for that.

That niggled me, too.

That line got to me as well!
It shows the kind of mentality in the camp with such statements.

Also he said (something like) they were buzzing about the last two performances, before going into this game.

We can still make top 6 - how aspirational!

The comment about 'owing everyone a performance' is sympotamatic of the way the club has gone over the past few years. When Rich Agar said the other week 'our effort was good' I nearly fell over in amazement - 100 per cent effort is the MINIMUM requirement every week is it not? Now Radders is saying we're 'owed a performance'. Well, thanks for that observation Lee. We're owed more than that after the rubbish we've put with during the past three or four seasons! Yes, Saints were turned over at home by Harlequins but we all knew that they had the ability to go and win at Leeds the following week. Could you ever see us turning one of the big sides over on their own patch even if we were flying? I couldn't.

The fact that everyone was 'buzzing' after Wigan is, as I said earlier, a sad indictment of how far we've fallen. We were in front for almost the entire game and lost it in the dying minutes to a side reduced to 12 men. When something like that happens, you should be 'gutted', 'as sick as a parrot', or, if you wish to avoid cliches, rather fed up. You most certainly should not be buzzing. Unless you're Agar and you're buzzing off.

I know. I'm so happy I could wee.

Awful, isn't it?

How far backwards we've fallen in a few years if that's the aims of people in the club.

Precisely. Do fans really expect him to say anything different.

Agar will get a stay of execution I feel, another 3 games or something like that.

I wonder who's turn it will be tomorrow to sound a t1t.

Mr Undroppable wants the current coach to stay what a surprise.

until the seasons just about totally fooked then..woo hoo!

Doesn't deserve it though mate, does he.

Friday night was it for me, we'd been slowly getting better as the season progressed. After 3 years we're still churning out performances like that? It's sad. Shows once and for all Agar is not able to get the players mind sets right. I feel like he's just taking the pi$$ out of me now.

[iYou can't pin it on that one game, though, because there were a few where we dropped points that we should have won like against Salford and Crusaders.

"That is something we have talked about a lot. That is what we don't want to do again this year.

"We also dropped points against Harlequins and these are teams we are expected to beat.

"If we could have picked those six points up we would have made the top four comfortably.

"I think we need to put more emphasis on those games. Hopefully, we can change that this year and if we can we will be there or thereabouts."[/i

Wonder who made these comments...

No he doesn't, I think the tiome has come sadly. It was weird hearing the crowd finally turn on Friday and I think Agar is really feeling the pressure right now.

I just hope the right appointment is made, even if we have to go with temporary coaches until the end of the season before we can get the right man then so be it.