Here's a question then... does making the 8 really matter if we won't then challenge in the playoffs?

I never said it did. I was just commenting on the question in the thread. Season is not over imo but it won't go anywhere.

and i was only asking a question.

Do you think it matters?

As things stand we are 2 points off the play offs with 40 points still up for grabs as well as still been in the Challenge Cup.

A change of coach while there is still time....

This year isn't over and done with if they change the coach soon.

2006 started badly, but I don't need to remind anyone how we ended the season.

Unfortunatly neither is the team.

True,and I could still have a chance of dating Uma Thurman.

After sitting through such a painful and abject display by what I can only vaguely call a RL team I have to be honest and say this season is already toast for Hull FC under the current regime. On the evidence of what we have seen since this season started we will be lucky to get half a dozen wins.

Agar needs to admit defeat and do the honourable thing and walk then the board need to take a long hard look at what they are doing to the product they are trying to sell and either invest in a coach who has a proven record of getting results and can do the job at Hull FC. If they are not prepared to do that then they may aswel close up, as much more of what we saw last night will be the death knel of this club as the heart has just about been ripped out of the fanbase.

As for making the top 8 we will struggle to stay off the bottom at this rate!! Unless major surgery is done now.

Not sure what your definition of 'decent' is but I would say Wigan, Huddersfield and a derby away from home with Leeds at home is a pretty damn tough start in my book!!

Neither are as high a standard as we should be aiming for

Did Agar not say that he would walk away if it all went Pete Tong ???

The season was over before it began for me !

We started SL 2011 with a squad that has some outstanding individuals in it but not enough of them, a squad that has some serious deficiencies at prop, HB and centre, a squad which is ultimately light years behind the top teams of SL and a total clown of a coach who is clearly not fit for purpose.

hate to say it mate but your right.
I have had countless discussions with you on this and most of the time stuck up for Hull and Agar but enough is enough it's time for change and NOW!!!!
now before this season is over full stop.

I think we still have something to offer this season but not under Agars tenure .