But then he will bring them both off after 10 minutes, because Moa likes to offload in the tackle(which is against our rules) and lauaki got a little too aggressive

Real LOL moment.

Probably the best way to watch us at the moment as it might actually look mildly entertaining through beer goggles plus if it doesnt look any better at least you wont remember how bad it was

Ok they had a few players missing but we again had our first choice half backs missing for the majority of the game, and our full back. They had 3 out of 4 of their pivots playing (burrow, sinfield, buderus) when we only had Long for the first 40, Obst (in his first game for us and was expected to take over as organiser) and Houghton. At the end of the day the better team won.

Fook me, he's changed his name again

Tough game but certainly winnable, provided we defend right. Our attack does not concern me too much but our defence does, which was the opposite way round last season.

11th hour decision for me, all dependent on whethere Agar still has a job or not

The same reason whether i lump on Hull or Huddersfield handicap betting or not!

I can see giants come out guns blazing u could see the thunder in Nathan browns face he wasn't a happy chappy at all, giants dont suit the heavy ground so if it's decent weather you could see a different giants side next weekend.

Agree with that. Having O'Meley as our main strike player is certainly making a difference.

If you're talking about 3 of their 4 as 6, 7, 9, and 13 as it appears, then so did we. You can't choose to ignore Fitzgibbon as a first choice pivot just because our coach decides our 13 doesn't play as one.

Bottom line is, we were missing:

First choice stand-off - so were they
First choice fullback - theirs lasted about 10 minutes

That's it. That's all we were without in the first half, and they had to work with exactly the same. But they were also missing half their first choice pack and still cruised through us.

The loss of Long was the only extra for us, but in all honesty we were no stronger with him than we were without him. We actually drew the 2nd half without him thanks to Leeds' fatigue.

I will still be there, until the bitter end like usual. Huddersfield looked awful last night and although they'll want to turn things around next week, I fancy us to at least give them a run for their money.

Our attack doesn't concern you? For much of Friday night, we again looked clueless near their line. 2 of our 3 tries came from a prop barging over and the other was near the end of the game, when it was already lost, and we were throwing the ball around in desperation.

Similarly, against the dobbins, our last tackle plays were awful

Add to that if Moa's effort had a different outcome also. Route one again.

It looks like pre-match festivities in Rickys Bar seeing as the Working Mans Club on the corner has now shut down.