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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
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That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: Standee "Another Rule cock up from what I hear.
to55er'"
Cock-up or deliberate strategy?
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| Quote: WormInHand "Cock-up or deliberate strategy?'"
the next few weeks will tell us
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: Standee "the next few weeks will tell us'"
Can't wait. Go on, Standee.
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[quote="The Dentist Wilf":ordztzb0]I for one wish him well... One thing is for sure despite what a lot on here said he was not sacked or under any sort of investigation...Good luck Mr Rule![/quote:ordztzb0]: |
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| Quote: Standee "Another Rule cock up from what I hear.
to55er'"
Thought everyone on here loved Rule. For me he's no doubt got good business acumen and is spot on with the marketing etc but he should have stuck to that, his running of the sporting side of things is e
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| Quote: WormInHand "Cock-up or deliberate strategy?'"
my thoughts too.
could be still a bit of tranfer movement to come
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| Quote: Standee "Why would we need him?'"
Exactly, we don't. We need to be playing Reece Lynne in the first team, at the very least for 50% of next season's games. He is a great prospect, and unlike most players of his age, he appears both physically and mentally ready for it. Of course he will make some mistakes, but he appears to have the temperament to learn from them. Playing him in the reserves all season would stifle his development.
This allows us to play Briscoe in the centre, giving us a bit of pace and extra punch in that part of the field, unlike any of the other alternatives. Personally I see no problem with him playing in the centre. He is basically a pretty outstanding player, he will adapt to it, just as he has adapted to wing when used to playing as a junior in the centres. His hands are fine, it's not as if all top class centres handle the ball like Mat Gidley anyway.
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| Quote: knocker norton "I agree. Some of the tries he has created for himself stuck out on the wing suggest he could cause plenty of damage further in field at centre.
We could have the best centre prospect in this country IMO.'"
Genuine question, do you have some examples please of when he has created his own tries through skilful play, or traditional centre play?
For me, Briscoe is a damn good finisher, but it has mainly been coming off the back of others putting him in gaps, or his acceleration when picking up a loose ball. The only examples I can think of him making his own tries is down to his raw strength getting him through a tackler. This is not certain to remain a key part of his game if he was moved infield, as he'd find himself coming up against bigger players more often.
There seems to be a train of thought that he'd be more effective at centre simply because he'd see the ball more often, but that doesn't necessarily follow. It's about the quality of possession, not just the amount.
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8118_1332426340.jpg Hull shock Leeds in 2005 Challenge Cup final
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Frosties. wrote: Believe you and me, Ellis will be in a Leeds shirt next year.
Frosties. wrote: Leeds signed him in January, he will play in a rhinos shirt for 2012.
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| Quote: Standee "Another Rule cock up from what I hear.
to55er'"
why whats he done now
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Genuine question, do you have some examples please of when he has created his own tries through skilful play, or traditional centre play?
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Dont mistake creates chances from nothing to mean as a centre, he hasnt played centre yet.
The first game of the season away at saints he scored a try from nothing from 90 metres. Strength, speed and a side step. Warrington away near end of season he got the ball stood still opposite Riley and put on a Newlove esque sidestep and strong finish - a finsh few others would have made.
For England his break from the Graham pass to calmly draw the full back (OK it was only PNG) and put Clubb away suggest he is more then just a finisher who is not aware of players around him.
The fact he has played wing so much in his short career I think is giving people a pre judged idea that may not be totally accurate of what Tom has to offer.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Genuine question, do you have some examples please of when he has created his own tries through skilful play, or traditional centre play?
There seems to be a train of thought that he'd be more effective at centre simply because he'd see the ball more often, but that doesn't necessarily follow. It's about the quality of possession, not just the amount.'"
Think with that last sentence you've unintentionally supported trying him in the centres. On the wing the vast, vast majority of his possession is taking the ball up from dummy half. Which in fact he is very good at, but in a team lacking attacking prowess, we would surely be well advised to be trying to do much much more with him.
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| Quote: knocker norton "Dont mistake creates chances from nothing to mean as a centre, he hasnt played centre yet.
The first game of the season away at saints he scored a try from nothing from 90 metres. Strength, speed and a side step. Warrington away near end of season he got the ball stood still opposite Riley and put on a Newlove esque sidestep and strong finish - a finsh few others would have made.
For England his break from the Graham pass to calmly draw the full back (OK it was only PNG) and put Clubb away suggest he is more then just a finisher who is not aware of players around him.
The fact he has played wing so much in his short career I think is giving people a pre judged idea that may not be totally accurate of what Tom has to offer.'" i may be wrong but hadn't he just made a break playing centre in 2008 final when he broke his ankle? Also, examples are limited in senior game but he was more than decent there in juniors. I'm convinced he'll be a star there, agar will play whiting though ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: handbrake "Exactly, we don't. We need to be playing Reece Lynne in the first team, at the very least for 50% of next season's games. He is a great prospect, and unlike most players of his age, he appears both physically and mentally ready for it. Of course he will make some mistakes, but he appears to have the temperament to learn from them. Playing him in the reserves all season would stifle his development.
This allows us to play Briscoe in the centre, giving us a bit of pace and extra punch in that part of the field, unlike any of the other alternatives. Personally I see no problem with him playing in the centre. He is basically a pretty outstanding player, he will adapt to it, just as he has adapted to wing when used to playing as a junior in the centres. His hands are fine, it's not as if all top class centres handle the ball like Mat Gidley anyway.'"
whats to say that wont happen,reece will get plenty of game time,and as for briscoe if the rumours are true about berro thats were i see briscoe been played in the centres
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| Think the club were left with no option on cutting ties with Berro due to "contract implications". Dont be surprised if the reasons behind this decision affects other clubs also and i bet there are a few clubs with backsides twitching at present especially with their overseas contingent. Its a shame imo, im a fan of Berro's and i dont think he's had the luck and the right team around him to showcase his talents whilst being at the club. Doubt very much we'll see a replacement on next years cap unless its a cheap option.
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| Quote: t.m.t.b.f. "Think the club were left with no option on cutting ties with Berro due to "contract implications". Dont be surprised if the reasons behind this decision affects other clubs also and i bet there are a few clubs with backsides twitching at present especially with their overseas contingent. Its a shame imo, im a fan of Berro's and i dont think he's had the luck and the right team around him to showcase his talents whilst being at the club. Doubt very much we'll see a replacement on next years cap unless its a cheap option.'" what kind of implications!
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| Huge loss if true.
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