haha,he might have meant anthony thacks?? now at widnes?

could it simply be that anytime a young player gets to play first team rugby they get butchered from the terraces and the message boards if they try a few things that go wrong.im pretty certain the likes of tompkins,eastmond,macguire etc made a hash of plays when they were first breaking through but maybe didnt get as much abuse and their confidence wasnt as rocked.do we simply expect too much too soon

I've said this for a long time and it's no coincidence that our best coach since Brian Smith was in charge when the bulk of those better players came through.

On the other hand you could also ask how many top class footballers the area has produced, cricketers, swimmers, athletes, cyclists and world class business people?

Maybe it's just the general mentality and lack of ambition of people from this area that is the issue

aye, nobody mocks failure like hull folk and we tend to live for the weekend.hardly a good development ground after the initial breakthrough

so do the players,so maybe there is the problem!!!!

aye but were kind of brought up with it arent we.is it the dockers/fishermans work hard party hard heritage

Sorry mate i actually meant all players playing in SL who are not at there original teams (excluding foreigners of course)

Ie Tansey, Sharp, J Turner, Dowes etc etc for us

I remember in 2007 we fielded a team in the second round of the play-offs, having finished 4th and beaten Huddersfield in the first round, that had only one overseas player and 10 homegrown in it. Lost 18-21 but felt pretty proud of that teamsheet. Think this was it
3 Richard Whiting Homegrown
4 Kirk Yeaman Homegrown
5 Gareth Raynor
6 Richard Horne Homegrown
7 Matthew Head
8 Paul King Homegrown
9 Tommy Lee Homegrown
10 Garreth Carvell
11 Lee Radford Homegrown
12 Danny Tickle
13 Danny Washbrook Homegrown
14 Wayne Godwin
15 Graeme Horne Homegrown
16 Scott Wheeldon Homegrown
17 Ewan Dowes

fair point but hall,king,lee,g horne and wheeldon have been shipped out deemed not good enough, and whilst many are workmanlike pro's most didnt/havent reach(ed) the level we expected .for me its just that half backs or flair players dont seem to develop well here

Mebbe why Crooks & Harman have been released?

It's been a perpetual conundrum for decades now. We can produce amatuer title-winning sides for fun, we (Hull & KR) struggle to get those players to make the big step up.

Who was the last Hull born, Hull trained scrum half to gain international (as in England or GB) honours?

Please don't mention Rich Horne, he may play at No 7 occasionally but if he's a scrum half then I'm a banana

It depends what you classed PC as.
He was never a 6 so its either 7 or 13 and he did play for england didnt he?

pc never reached his full potential though did he.at his best he was good but didnt do it on a regular enough basis to be considered top drawer

No I agree and I hope Cod'ead doesn't think im being sarcastic.
I was just answering his question (I think).

Only in the Federation Shield tournament with Tonga, Samoa and France in 2006 whilst the Tri Nations including GB were taking place down under. In effect it was a junior England squad, so he's not a "full" international.

That's fair enough I just remembered him pictured in the HDM lining up a kick whilst wearing and england shirt.