And other clubs regularly reverse their boards' decisions on the basis of fan opinion? As said, although it's a bit contrived, I think the moves by the club to engage the fans, even if it appears tokenist at times, is better than a) what we had previously and b) what other clubs seem to offer. In no way perfect, but a step forward.

It wasn't a dig at you mate.

To be honest i don't see why the club should make decisions based on what the fans think, how many fans have ran a sporting club of it's size?
The saying goes - Listen to the fans and you'll soon be sat with them.
Fans forums aren't particularly my thing but they are a tool used to bring the club closer to the fans. As is airlie night and FC Voices etc.
Rugby is and always will be (in Hull anyway) a community/family sport, it's what sets us apart. The days of sitting in a social club with the players on a night after a game are over, this is how it's been replaced.

It's way better than being run by well meaning hobbyists like Tindall and Wauldby, that is certain.

Easy now....
It's not about changing things that we all wanted, and as I said they gave a good account of themselves for their reasons they continue doing things they believe will put us in a stronger position, and still financially stable in the future..
They DO give us chances to air our grievances and yes probably fall on deaf ears, but IMO they answer a lot with plans for future..
I never said we changed anything but they are making sure our club has a future and not a ? Over it...

depends, do you think they give a to55 about us, or keeping their investment viable?

anyway, it's a moot point, I've met the main players, and they are, without exception, objectionable people.

We are all of our own opinion mate, that's why we're on here, to discuss our views..
I'm not denying you have met these players and you obviously know more than I, but given the fact these forums are for an individual opinion, I have given mine on the subject and you have given yours.
Draw a line under it yes?

draw a line under what? I dont agree, that is my opinion.

At a Meeting a few weeks ago J Rule was asked about Friday/Sunday games ..He stated you cannot please every fan and since changing to a Friday night Hull Season Passes have hit the 9.000 mark a rise more then Leeds/Wigan ..He did say "IF" the market or finding changed Hull might have to think again and look at changing the day they play matches ..But I don't think that will happen just yet ..But that is me reading between the lines

There are some who thought these people were Gods!!!

It is in Ull thats why we all ride bikes!

Its not in Bradford you don't see them on bikes ..even my car swears when we are there I think it say these Fu--ing hills

Haha don't feckin agree then. I'm not asking you to. You asked me for reasons out of interest, I gave my opinion, and if in the future wether they give a to55 about us or not, if we reap rewards their decisions will have been fruitful. Until then imo they deserve credit.. it is a business after all.. not really interested in spending the rest of the night arguing about it, so that's the reason for drawing a line under it ok..

I suppose that was supposed to be a joke?

The figures are spot on and the reasons are givena month[/i just to keep it safe for fans), reduced prices during the recession which have affected gate receipts, lower merchandice sales due to being in no finals whatsoever, no Challenge Cup money ( which I suppose we were getting a bit too used to!!) and all the oncosts of setting up a new stadium, including employing extra staff (hence the increased wage bill - not all Saints' staff are players), marketing, planning costs, etc, etc. We will post another huge loss this time next year. But a season in Widnes, with no Knowsley Road to drain every drop of money from the directors' pockets, will probably provide a far healthier balance sheet and will give the club an idea as to what it can expect when Saints finally move into their own (owned) stadium.

Not aimed at Saints.

He's referring to the hilarious apology the Hull Daily Mail was press-ganged into making today after they gave Hull KR fans a timely Christmas present by claiming Hull KR were £3M in the red on Christmas Eve last year.

The KR board did a massive dummy spit because, although their books stated they [iwere[/i £3M in the red at the end of the last accounting return (published (very late) just before Christmas), they weren't £3M in the red on Christmas Eve itself. Truly.

As no-one can prove otherwise they apparently refused to talk to the Mail for weeks afterwards and allegedly threatened legal action. This coupled with Mullet $h1ting his pants at the thought of no more cosy business dinners and drinks with Hudge&co. led, in my opinion, to today's retraction.