How come Calders has to play in the 20s to prove his fitness etc (which I agree with)...yet Horney comes straight back into the team......stupid, stupid!!!!

And on the flip side did the ball find him from our creative halves?

I thought Yeamo did what was asked of him last night, including scoring a decent try which was disallowed.

Yeamo did virtually nothing. Watch Turner if you want to see a centre getting involved. Would rather see Hall and Turner at centre.

I've watched the game twice now on TV. Turner scoots from acting half in our 20 like Yeamo does. Turner got a couple of decent balls and Yeamo didnt. Neither of them got any service but i'm not sure where the Yeamo bashing comes from tbh.

Probably the same place as the Agar bashing

Seriously - since Turner has come into the team regularly at centre he has been much better than Yeaman IMO. His form has been very good. His footwork is better, his distribution to his winger is better (although Yeaman has improved this) and his defence is equally as good. Yeaman gets noted for his defence but for every impressive big hit he makes (including a couple yesterday) he misses two. Yeaman's has been distinctly average compared to Turner - in the same team with the same other players around them. I expect more from Yeaman as one of our (former) internationals. Turner has consistently been better than him this year. In this day and age I actually think Yeaman looks a bit small out on the park compared to most around him.

Cos people have to blame someone for us losing. Then we get calls for Webster to play, we should have signed Rooney etc, it's fooking laughable.

Rubbish.

It's not about blaming individuals because we lost. It's about pointing out that some players are not playing well and I for one strongly believe that Yeaman isn't playing well. Not very well at all and hasn't done for a long time.

Is it wrong to discuss players' form on here ? What the hell is the board for then ?

I don't think Yeaman's performance is the sole reason we lost and never indicated anything to say I did, but his performance like others was below par.

Let's be honest, there is virtually no one in the team who has been consistent throughout the season other than o'meley, manu, briscoe and probably fitz and whiting. Ther rest have been average at best and most much worse than that. We've gone through the motions in many games and not been at the races in plenty of others. I really fail to understand the apparant lack of motivation and enthusiasm. Maybe it's our preparation, who knows, but something isn't right

Well I think Yeaman has been good this season but better in the games where he has had some decent ball to work with. We lost last night and fans are saying drop Yeaman and play Hall. Criticise all you like but Yeaman did absolutely nothing wrong last night, he defended well, scooted the ball up and made some runs off Manu but never got the ball. What did he do that you were not happy with?

I'll look at the wider picture. How many games this season has Yeaman been MOM ? Either sponsors, or if you prefer, the MOM threads on here. I will tell you that I don't think he has been once. He regularly fails to make the top 3 in our polls. Turner, Whiting, Tansey and I think Briscoe all have been in and around there and have all had home MOM awards. How many times do we come away from a game thinking Yeaman has had a stormer ? - you know the kind of game where he does something that has changed the game - beaten a man and made a lengthy break for example. Imposed himself on the game. Backed up a line break and gone in unopposed under the sticks. He hasn't done it. Hall has, Turner has, Tansey has. My problem is that he seems to have a guaranteed starting berth yet both Turner and Whiting have played consistently better than him. I don't think this helps him - it's all too comfortable. So my point about him is over a season and not just last night.

For balance I am one of Whiting's biggest supporters but I would drop him for the derby purely based on the totally unnecessary half d attempt of a pass to Tickle that cost us 6 points early in the game. It was a pathetic piece of play and he wants his kicking for it. Great break and timed pass by Turner mind.

I agree totally but I think that the 6 points that went begging were probably more about having Whiting on the wing. I like Whiting as a player but having someone as slow as him on the wing was always going to cost us sooner or later. There's probably not another winger in SL who doesn't score himself there.

Which kind of backs up my point about Yeaman's auto place in the team. Calderwood on the wing, as he is a winger, and either Whiting or Hall at centre in Yeaman's place.

Based on this year does anyone seriously think that would weaken us a lot ? I don't.

I certainly don't. I have never subscribed to this Yeaman lovefest on here. I've had the same opinion for a long time now that he is nothing more than average at best and probably earning way more money than he's worth.

Going one step further, having Yeaman, Horne, Radford and Dowes as automatic team selections is very concerning to me. No matter how ordinary those players are, they are guaranteed a place in the 17.