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| Quote: carl_spackler "I'm pretty sure Long was still on the pitch, I seem to recall it being him who handed Tickle the ball.'"
Agar was right in what he said then. If anything he should be giving the players a blast for trying to by-pass their skipper, who lets be fair is a heck of a lot more experienced than Agar is!
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| Quote: R.B.A "Agar was right in what he said then. If anything he should be giving the players a blast for trying to by-pass their skipper, who lets be fair is a heck of a lot more experienced than Agar is!'"
Agree. I've actually wondered before how it must affect players when they are told by the coach to take the 2 when they feel a try might be on. Could potentially undermine the confidence they feel the coach has in them.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I'm pretty sure Long was still on the pitch, I seem to recall it being him who handed Tickle the ball.'"
No, it was after Long was taken off, with only about 15 mins left to go.
Not sure if Radford was still on the pitch at the time.
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| Class....so basically Agar is like Mike Bassett...
"Do what the feck you want"
Seriously of course the team on the pitch should be making the decisions, they are the onesz on the field who know if they have a chance of getting over the whitewash or not etc..
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Class....so basically Agar is like Mike Bassett...
"Do what the feck you want"
Under normal circumstances, you could be right.
Perhaps (since Long was taken off) they were unsure what to do. No leader and no play maker.
I think at the time they had Cats on the back foot, but they were struggling to get over the line, especially with Long being off.
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| Quote: EXPRO "The stuff some prople hear huh
Don't give a toss what gets heard in actual fact or how Agar is/isn't involved in match decision making, was merely passing on something that was passed on to me seeing as the OP was asking about Agar's tone. Indeed as you say, the stuff people hear. For all the people who postulate they have the inside track or first class honours in lip reading, someone has to be incorrect.
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| Quote: Isaiah "Under normal circumstances, you could be right.
Perhaps (since Long was taken off) they were unsure what to do. No leader and no play maker.
I think at the time they had Cats on the back foot, but they were struggling to get over the line, especially with Long being off.'"
At the end of the day these are professional experienced rugby players...they should know exactly what is happening, they should know how hard the game is etc, they should have an inkling if they stand a chance of getting over the whitewash, they are the ones taking the hits....we can all sit in hindsight and say you should take the 2 etc, but we are not the ones on the pitch playing the game....If you noticed on Friday Washy stood up to the plate and started organising, there is always an organiser on a pitch, the problems is some organise better than others, the problem we now face is Longs biggest asset is organising....
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "At the end of the day these are professional experienced rugby players...they should know exactly what is happening, they should know how hard the game is etc, they should have an inkling if they stand a chance of getting over the whitewash, they are the ones taking the hits....we can all sit in hindsight and say you should take the 2 etc, but we are not the ones on the pitch playing the game....If you noticed on Friday Washy stood up to the plate and started organising, there is always an organiser on a pitch, the problems is some organise better than others, the problem we now face is Longs biggest asset is organising....'"
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| Humbersides interpretation of events was Whiting made the deision to go for the two as it was after Long went off injured.
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| Quote: "before Hull’s hopes were hit on the hour as Long was led off the field after a thunderous collision with Carlaw.
Tickle’s penalty from wide out on the left after Sa’s late shot on Briscoe with 15 minutes to go allowed Hull to regain some control'"
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| I'd say its a pretty standard thing to do, I'd guess if it was the last ten minutes he'd of had more of a say
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "At the end of the day these are professional experienced rugby players...they should know exactly what is happening, they should know how hard the game is etc, they should have an inkling if they stand a chance of getting over the whitewash, they are the ones taking the hits....we can all sit in hindsight and say you should take the 2 etc, but we are not the ones on the pitch playing the game....If you noticed on Friday Washy stood up to the plate and started organising, there is always an organiser on a pitch, the problems is some organise better than others, the problem we now face is Longs biggest asset is organising....'"
At the end of the day, I don't think they give a fig about what you or I think they (as professionals) should be able to do.
At the end of the day, perhaps they were not sure what to do.
At the end of the day, they may have just needed his blessing, for them to make the choice.
At the end of the day, (despite your opinions) they 'did' asked Agar.
At the end of the day, (according to some) Agar was having one of his several dummy spit sessions.
At the end of the day, he said "Do what you want"
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| Quote: Isaiah "At the end of the day, I don't think they give a fig about what you or I think they (as professionals) should be able to do.
At the end of the day, perhaps they were not sure what to do.
At the end of the day, they may have just needed his blessing, for them to make the choice.
At the end of the day, (despite your opinions) they 'did' asked Agar.
At the end of the day, (according to some) Agar was having one of his several dummy spit sessions.
At the end of the day, he said "Do what you want"'"
Erm....OK
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