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Quote: WormInHand "Someone mentioned about shared grounds being harder in that hard pitches suit soccer, so these grounds are potentially more of an injury risk to rugby players.

Could the KC be a factor? How does it compare to Wigan and Hudds?'"


wigan and hudds don't seem to get the injuries we do!!!!

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This is just beyond a joke now. I dont care what anyone says, no team can have this much bad luck with injuries, not three years on the bounce. Somethings not right, nobody can justifiably say that we have just been 'unlucky' with injuries over recent years. Last year was disasterous (as was the year before barring the cup run) however we moved on, recruited well, and dismissed it as a bad year. Yet here were are again, a year on and (injuries wise) nothing has changed. I'm actually bored of it all now, no doubt if our abysmal run continues and we inevitably slide out of the top eight, the board will be quick to announce a big marquee signing for 2011 and sweet-talk us into believing that next year things will be different, and that in actual fact we were targetting next year all along.

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Quote: Trawlerman "Sorry it’s a bit long but I don’t think we are responding as a club to the injuries we seem to have had for three years. IMO injuries can be due to five main reasons.

1 Luck – there is no doubt that luck plays a part in injuries but to have similar issues for three years in a row would suggest that there is more to it that just bad luck.

2 Age – whilst I don’t have any statistics to prove this I believe it is fairly widely agreed that as a sportsman passes the age of 30 injuries do seem to be more common and the recovery period longer.

3 Technique – In a contact sport such as Rugby League the way you go into contact has to have some effect on the hits to the body. For example if you are upright with an open chest you will eventually take a hit to the rib cage that causes injury.

4. Preparation and warm up – Warm up and stretching before a game is vital as is maintaining that flexibility created in the warm up whilst on the bench waiting to be called upon. Take Louaki (sp) for example, warms up before the Quins game then has 5/10minutes in the changing rooms followed by 10 minutes sat on the bench. Enters the game and within seconds has pulled a muscle in his calf.

5. Tactics – If you play rugby league in ones as FC tend to do you are going to take more hits from defenders. For example one man takes the ball up and is talked by a three defenders with often a fourth coming in to finish the job. Alternatively you have an attacker in support and at least one of those defenders must stay out of the tackle to mark the supporting attacker. Result ball carrier takes less hits and only has to wrestle with 2/3 defenders on the floor.

These observations are from a guy who watches from the stands with no medical history but if I was paying £1.8m in salary to players I would want to know why for three years in a row half my payroll costs are not performing for me. I would find an independent consultant in this field to carry out some research because to say its bad luck for the third year is unacceptable. There has to be another reason be it signing old injury prone players, fitness, preparation or coaching there has to be a reason beyond just bad luck.

Anybody have any other theories or ideas.'"


Good summary

one more to add

6. Players who are carrying injuries being played for games, sometimes for weeks on end and that leads to longer term injuries. We have been guilty of that in the last three of four years

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Quote: Ian P "Good summary

one more to add

6. Players who are carrying injuries being played for games, sometimes for weeks on end and that leads to longer term injuries. We have been guilty of that in the last three of four years'"


Big contributing factor that....However Agar knows what he is doing icon_sad.gif

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As Big Dave T, Knocker Norton and Slim Jim will confirm i said from the outset last week that Richard Horne should never have taken to the pitch. I couldnt believe the abuse the kid was getting from the Hull fans even though it was clear he was playing crocked. The end result is a prolonged absence. I predict that the same thing will happen this week with Long and Fitzgibbon given that neither are anywhere near 100% fit to return.

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7. Player A: playing in a team that plays for eachother under the guidance of a good coach, moves are planned throughout the season and players are picked on form. Competition for places is intense due to the coach having everyone on a level playing field.

Player B: playing for a team that plays boring one dimensional rugby under a coach that will not listen to anyone elses opinion and has his team selection sorted before a ball is kicked. Regardless of performance or attitude, this player knows his position is secure because he knows one of the 'kids' will make way for him

Which player will pick up the most 'knocks' through the season

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Quote: supersuperfc "7. Player A

so are you saying that fate decides who is playing well and who isnt thus then befitting an injury upon him because his side is playing inconsistently?? because its fate that decides all things isnt it??
strange, I always saw injuries as damned bad luck

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Quote: EXPRO "so are you saying that fate decides who is playing well and who isnt thus then befitting an injury upon him because his side is playing inconsistently?? because its fate that decides all things isnt it??
strange, I always saw injuries as damned bad luck'"



our injuries have lasted 2 1/2 years-bad luck??????

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Quote: jimmyfivebellies "our injuries have lasted 2 1/2 years-bad luck??????'"


what else caused it??? poor performances of the team ?? surely then every player is out injured are they??
Please let me know the EXACT cause of all our injuries if not bad luck

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Quote: EXPRO "what else caused it??? poor performances of the team ?? surely then every player is out injured are they??
Please let me know the EXACT cause of all our injuries if not bad luck'"


this time next year we will all be having the same opinions.no team has this type of 'bad luck' lasting as long as this!!

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Regardless of injuries we had more then enough in our squad to beat Quins the other weekend. If the team is organised, well drilled and motivated it is easier to compensate for injured players, we are none of these things. I watched the Broncos beat the Storm at the weekend with 7 players aged 21 or younger, they performed no different to the star studded team of a few years ago. Leeds and Saints have their own playing style that rarely alters and their youngsters fall nicely into those systems. I have seen nothing at our club to suggest we have any on field structure whatsoever, no wonder our young talent struggle when the experienced players look lost.

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Quote: EXPRO "so are you saying that fate decides who is playing well and who isnt thus then befitting an injury upon him because his side is playing inconsistently?? because its fate that decides all things isnt it??
strange, I always saw injuries as damned bad luck'"


maybe i should have worded it better.
What i'm wondering is wether players who arent very happy are more likely to pick up 'knocks' than happy players. If you catch my drift

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Quote: EXPRO "what else caused it??? poor performances of the team ?? surely then every player is out injured are they??
Please let me know the EXACT cause of all our injuries if not bad luck'"

It is a lot to do with bad luck ..Its like people falling in the Street or tripping up 9 out of 10 people could walk over a loose pavement stone and not fall..1 person could fall and not get hurt but there again another person could fracture they arm ..Look at the teams who have start badly with players getting injured ..Hull problem the players injured are pivotal players Saints/Leeds/Quins/Catalan Wakefield all have had those players out at the same time and struggled ..just the luck of the draw ..Coaches will play they best players and if a player up his hand up to play from a fans point of view good on him,, our problem our back up players are not up to the standard but they are the main part of the team ..The Coach say some are giving their best other are not ..Fans can say the other are not good enough icon_confused.gif: What next season some more clear out

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Quote: kt170496 "It is a lot to do with bad luck ..Its like people falling in the Street or tripping up 9 out of 10 people could walk over a loose pavement stone and not fall..1 person could fall and not get hurt but there again another person could fracture they arm ..Look at the teams who have start badly with players getting injured ..Hull problem the players injured are pivotal players Saints/Leeds/Quins/Catalan Wakefield all have had those players out at the same time and struggled ..just the luck of the draw ..Coaches will play they best players and if a player up his hand up to play from a fans point of view good on him,, our problem our back up players are not up to the standard but they are the main part of the team ..The Coach say some are giving their best other are not ..Fans can say the other are not good enough
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