TBH I am actually more dejected tonight than I've been over the last couple of years. We cleared out the deadwood from the squad and recruited well but the one area that needed improving more than any other has been left as was'. As a result we are going to reap what we have sowed. My biggest fear is that the board will not act soon enough and will wait until this season has become a complete wash out like the previous two. We deserve better.

Thats the big thing for me as i cant think of a single player who has improved whilst Agar has been in charge. You have Brown taking a player from NL in Lunt and turning him into a possible England bolter at the end of the year. Kevin Brown looks a totally different type of player as does Crabtree. For Wigan you have Roberts, Coley and O'Loughlin all of whom look totally rejuvenated under McGuire.

i think we were out enthused tonight and were guilty of going through the motions expecting to win against a salford side with a poor record so far this year. this doesnt mean we should call for the coach to be sacked just yet. yes we should have performed better in the second half after agars half-time inspiration but i will wait for the derby reaction before losing all hope.

you always feel a bit down straight after a defeat, especially 2 points we're expected to bag.

Brown did the same ,with Scott Moore last year.

Also Maguire, has transformed Joel Tomkins, and Fielden looks back to his best.

if this was Agar's first season we'd feel down about a defeat, but not calling for his head...but were into year 3 of this rubbish and enough is a enough.

And what about the performances against Crusaders and Wigan.

If this was an isolated incident you'd have a point, but as Smiggs points out we did exactly the same against Crusaders and Wigan. That's a rather disturbing trend to say the least.

its a tough league. im not expecting miracles from a side that has played poorly for the last two seasons. agar isnt an nrl miracle worker.

What exactly are you expecting? I'm expecting better than we put in against Crusaders, Wigan and now Salford, chuck in a dire 1st 40 against Cas and a borefest last week against the Bulls. I'm not that impressed with everything right now.

For mine,

Our team ethic is lacking to say the least.

Our play-the-ball - too slow!!
Passing - too slow!!
Defensive Line - too slow!!
No backing up.

These issues, have never improved since Agar took over.

These basic core skills,can be improved with good preparation and good coaching.

Both Huddersfield and Wigan now excel in all these areas, and they havent acquired several international players,
since Brown and Maguire took over.

On current evidence, he's not even an amateur coach

It didnt take Brown or Maguire two seasons, to transform Huddersfield and Wigan.

your chairman needs to get over to aussie.Ask the best in the business who in there opinion is a top up and coming coach with upto date views on the game..and then do everything to sign him up.

IL did and thank god

I cant see it happening this season. I think Mr Rule will let him have the full season to show what HIS players can do.

They'll only give the job to Dennis Moore anyway. Im not saying he's not good enough but thats what i think they'll do if they sack Agar.

You never know he may resign.