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| What it shows, better than away support in the strictest sense, is what a fixture adds to overall attendance. Two main factors are looked at together IMO - size of away support and attractiveness to walk-up home support. I take no pride in saying that Hull and Rovers decent performances are likely more down to travelling support, as I suspect they are not among the glamour fixtures like Wigan/Saints/Leeds.
Rovers, away support might be the best - [irelative to total support[/i.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Rovers, away support might be the best - [irelative to total support[/i.'"
Wouldn't disagree with that.
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| Regardless of rivalry both Hull's & Rovers away support is superb.
And the derby atmosphere cannot be matched in my opinion by any other superleague derby.
It's the only "proper" derby and long may it coninue.
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| The fact that Harlequins finished 2nd highest at KC when in reality they were probably the 2nd lowest attendees to the KC leaves it open to ridicule.
As someone has already pointed out regular fans and neutrals are more likely to turn out if saints or leeds are playing than lower teams, which in turn beefs up thier attendance.
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| Quote: old frightful "Daft way of working it out. I think both Hull and Rovers fans can be proud of their away support. There's already a minimum 45 miles on the clock before you even think about leaving Hull for an away fixture.'"
Exactly . Clubs in West Yorkshire and Lancs are that close together most away games are like a home one !
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| They need to factor in which fixtures were televised aswell. This would affect the number of Home fans deciding to stop at home and as such meaning the away crowd would look poor.
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| Just thinking abut how I remember them appearing in the stands at Hull (and I bet it's the same at Rovers) I would work it out as:
Wire, Rovers, Hull, Wigan (top echelon)
Leeds, Bradford, Saints, Cas (2nd echelon)
Hudds, Salford, (3rd echelon)
Catalans, Quins, Crusaders (why bother echelon)
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| Think you can factor in geography as well to a small extent. Teams based in West Yorkshire; Leeds, Bradford, Wakey, Cas and Hudds have far shorter distances to travel to Lancashire; Saints, Wire, Salford Wigan etc and Visa versa.
I think it's only a small factor but i know i personally attend more away games in West Yorks then i do in Lancashire due to distance/time. I'm pretty sure if i lived middle ground i'd be more enabled to take in more games.
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| Quote: Phil O'Stein "Think you can factor in geography as well to a small extent. Teams based in West Yorkshire; Leeds, Bradford, Wakey, Cas and Hudds have far shorter distances to travel to Lancashire; Saints, Wire, Salford Wigan etc and Visa versa.
I think it's only a small factor but i know i personally attend more away games in West Yorks then i do in Lancashire due to distance/time. I'm pretty sure if i lived middle ground i'd be more enabled to take in more games.'"
Excellent points mate. Amazes me how both Hull clubs take (for example) as many to Leeds or Cas as Bradford do. Imagine how many either Hull club would take to Beverley or Ferriby if they had a franchise?! (it's basically the same difference when you think about it).
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| Both Hull sides (with obvious exceptions) have longer distances to travel than most teams so that should also be taken into consideration.
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| Quote: downtheante "Just thinking abut how I remember them appearing in the stands at Hull (and I bet it's the same at Rovers) I would work it out as
If you factor in distance to travel I would say Bradford have the most disappointing away following. (this may have been different during their glory years). Leeds to an extent also have a disappointing away following if you base it on %age of home gates.
Wigan, Wire and Saints generally have the biggest away following at CP (Hull aside) dependant on when the match is scheduled.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "What it shows, better than away support in the strictest sense, is what a fixture adds to overall attendance. Two main factors are looked at together IMO - size of away support and attractiveness to walk-up home support. I take no pride in saying that Hull and Rovers decent performances are likely more down to travelling support, as I suspect they are not among the glamour fixtures like Wigan/Saints/Leeds.
Rovers, away support might be the best - [irelative to total support[/i.'"
If we have a good season i think that may change.
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| So, in an attempt to take on the "biggest saddo" mantle I have used the attendances in Mrs B's post (added Wakefield v Warrington because it was missing), then I
1. Took the highest and lowest off to take account of derbies and the Catalans v Hudds game
2. Assumed 15% of supporters were away supporters
The answer based upon that bizarre statistical analysis is:
Warrington, Saints, Leeds, Hull KR, Wigan, Hull, Wakefield, Huddersfield, Castleford, Celtic, Bradford, Salford, Quins, Catalans
If you include all games:
Saints, Warrington, Leeds, Hull KR, Wigan, Hull, Wakefield, Castleford, Bradford, Huddersfield, Celtic, Salford, Quins, Catalans
There, that's statistics for you
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| Quote: PAUL M "Both Hull sides (with obvious exceptions) have longer distances to travel than most teams so that should also be taken into consideration.'"
Probably the biggest factor to be honest!
anyone who went to the KC regularly last season knows who and who didnt turn up in number!!
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| lets have a whos the loudest poll too with decibel readings!!
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