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Quote: robinho "Well, I always look to the West Hull massive for a well thought out, well reasoned and intelligent response to any posts on these forums.

Just like 'They probably know more about managing a SL club than Uncle Kath, Jimmy Tool and the rest of that shower' you mean ?

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I was being sarcastic Mr BJ.

Whose board is the biggest laughing stock in SL? Despite all the spin from Tool et al there is no shiny new training complex for you, no Crocker for you (despite incurring tons of cost in an effort to make it so), no Sunday pm kick offs for you (despite significant demand for it from your fans )and no first team coach that knows what he's doing.

Oh, and no play-off action for the second season in a row now either.

The HKR board said survival, consolidation and challenging, so we are not that far away from the third objective. Your club is going the opposite way i.e challenging (3 years ago), consolidation (last two years in bottom quarter) and survival (hopefully you might achieve this, so we can get our 4 easy points off you). Where have I heard that before?

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Quote: robinho "I was being sarcastic Mr BJ.

Whose board is the biggest laughing stock in SL? Despite all the spin from Tool et al there is no shiny new training complex for you, no Crocker for you (despite incurring tons of cost in an effort to make it so), no Sunday pm kick offs for you (despite significant demand for it from your fans )and no first team coach that knows what he's doing.
'"


Significant demand? Where did you get that statistical nugget from? From the survey taken it was deemed that Friday nights were a success and people wanted it to continue.


Training complex is ongoing.

Crocker was not the fault of the club, the rules changed as did the personal who authorised the visa's before his visa was applied for.

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Quote: robinho "I was being sarcastic Mr BJ.

Whose board is the biggest laughing stock in SL? Despite all the spin from Tool et al there is no shiny new training complex for you, no Crocker for you (despite incurring tons of cost in an effort to make it so), no Sunday pm kick offs for you (despite significant demand for it from your fans )and no first team coach that knows what he's doing.

Oh, and no play-off action for the second season in a row now either.

The HKR board said survival, consolidation and challenging, so we are not that far away from the third objective. Your club is going the opposite way i.e challenging (3 years ago), consolidation (last two years in bottom quarter) and survival (hopefully you might achieve this, so we can get our 4 easy points off you). Where have I heard that before?'"


Got to admit the measure of a coach always seems to become apparent when it matters in the play-offs icon_wink.gif

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Quote: robinho "I was being sarcastic Mr BJ.

Whose board is the biggest laughing stock in SL? Despite all the spin from Tool et al there is no shiny new training complex for you, no Crocker for you (despite incurring tons of cost in an effort to make it so), no Sunday pm kick offs for you (despite significant demand for it from your fans )and no first team coach that knows what he's doing.

Oh, and no play-off action for the second season in a row now either.

The HKR board said survival, consolidation and challenging, so we are not that far away from the third objective. Your club is going the opposite way i.e challenging (3 years ago), consolidation (last two years in bottom quarter) and survival (hopefully you might achieve this, so we can get our 4 easy points off you). Where have I heard that before?'"



Oh dear, sounds like we are doomed and you are going to go on to greater things (then coming 4th). Shame the 14,000 fans of the great F.C. don't see it like that. There was a feeling of impending disappointment from the meagre crowd at Caravan Park after Wigan showed you how it's played, get used to it cos it will be the mainstay next season. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: unknownlegend "Oh dear, sounds like we are doomed and you are going to go on to greater things (then coming 4th). Shame the 14,000 fans of the great F.C. don't see it like that. There was a feeling of impending disappointment from the meagre crowd at Caravan Park after Wigan showed you how it's played, get used to it cos it will be the mainstay next season.
Never mind it sounding like we are doomed. More to the point I think I hit a nerve !!!!! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: robinho "I was being sarcastic Mr BJ.

Whose board is the biggest laughing stock in SL? Despite all the spin from Tool et al there is no shiny new training complex for you, no Crocker for you (despite incurring tons of cost in an effort to make it so), no Sunday pm kick offs for you (despite significant demand for it from your fans )and no first team coach that knows what he's doing.

Oh, and no play-off action for the second season in a row now either.

The HKR board said survival, consolidation and challenging, so we are not that far away from the third objective. Your club is going the opposite way i.e challenging (3 years ago), consolidation (last two years in bottom quarter) and survival (hopefully you might achieve this, so we can get our 4 easy points off you). Where have I heard that before?'"



And to answer your query.
1) Training complex cant be built overnight you wally !
2) How can you blame the board for Crocker not getting a visa you wally !
3)No sunday games cos Fridays have meant a financial improvement for the club and have been very succesful. Despite you thinking there was significant demand for it you are wrong. People dont like change in any walk of life and so a number voiced their concerns. Ask the same people now and most will say their opinions have changed ! (You wally !)
4) They have given the benefit of the doubt to a coach who has told them he wants to build his own side and given the bloke that chance.We will see if the coach can make it next year but I dont think its bad business sense by the board. A gamble on the pitch yes but not bad business sense you wally !

Our board have proven that they can more than adequately run the company as the money making venture that it is without losing its very large fan base.
Remember though,running a SL club can be considered something of a marathon and certainly not a sprint. Lets hope we see in the future if your board have the legs to run at a steady pace or run out of puff before they even really started !!!


And you speak as a supporter of a club where the board are so heavily in debt they darent file club accounts on time.

Let me explain.....There are only two reasons why companies file accounts late
1) The company is in the sheet !
2) The company is in the sheet !

You wally !!! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: MR BOJANGLES "Remember though,running a SL club can be considered something of a marathon and certainly not a sprint. Lets hope we see in the future if your board have the legs to run at a steady pace or run out of puff before they even really started !!!'"


Indeed, it would be awful to have gambled everything on winning in the playoffs and ended up facing a £330K debt!

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Quote: robinho "I was being sarcastic Mr BJ.

Whose board is the biggest laughing stock in SL? Despite all the spin from Tool et al there is no shiny new training complex for you, no Crocker for you (despite incurring tons of cost in an effort to make it so), no Sunday pm kick offs for you (despite significant demand for it from your fans )and no first team coach that knows what he's doing.

Oh, and no play-off action for the second season in a row now either.

The HKR board said survival, consolidation and challenging, so we are not that far away from the third objective. Your club is going the opposite way i.e challenging (3 years ago), consolidation (last two years in bottom quarter) and survival (hopefully you might achieve this, so we can get our 4 easy points off you). Where have I heard that before?'"
Hows that extension to the stands going??

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Quote: robinho "I was being sarcastic Mr BJ.

Whose board is the biggest laughing stock in SL? Despite all the spin from Tool et al there is no shiny new training complex for you, no Crocker for you (despite incurring tons of cost in an effort to make it so), no Sunday pm kick offs for you (despite significant demand for it from your fans )and no first team coach that knows what he's doing.

Oh, and no play-off action for the second season in a row now either.

The HKR board said survival, consolidation and challenging, so we are not that far away from the third objective. Your club is going the opposite way i.e challenging (3 years ago), consolidation (last two years in bottom quarter) and survival (hopefully you might achieve this, so we can get our 4 easy points off you). Where have I heard that before?'"
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Mr BJ

The training ground has been rejected, so back to square one with that one. It certainly won't be built overnight you wally!

You can blame your board for paying Crocker for months and months without any return. They should have been looking at alternatives at the first hint of changes to the VISA rules (like any pro-active board would) you wally!!

There are still hundreds of fans who don't like Fridays, I know quite a few who simply can't make it due to work commitments etc., so that's presumably the reason for giving away freebies at the end of last year. A colleague of mine had already paid to see this game through his season ticket, so felt ripped off (as did most of your pass holders) at this decision, you wally!

You have a coach that, judging from most people's opinion on the darkside, cannot motivate a team and has no tactics or gameplan. Look at the countless threads on this forum from earlier this season you wally!

You have had 10 years in SL, it is a long planning process for sure, but your team has gone backwards over the past 2-3 years.

Standee

No nerve has been hit at all. I thought the whole point of these forums was to discuss all these sorts of issues.

I am not privy to the reasons why the HKR accounts have been filed late but if you can find proof to back up your call, please let me know as it would be interesting to know the true position of the club.

TIA

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Quote: robinho "Mr BJ

The training ground has been rejected, so back to square one with that one. It certainly won't be built overnight you wally!

You can blame your board for paying Crocker for months and months without any return. They should have been looking at alternatives at the first hint of changes to the VISA rules (like any pro-active board would) you wally!!

There are still hundreds of fans who don't like Fridays, I know quite a few who simply can't make it due to work commitments etc., so that's presumably the reason for giving away freebies at the end of last year. A colleague of mine had already paid to see this game through his season ticket, so felt ripped off (as did most of your pass holders) at this decision, you wally!

You have a coach that, judging from most people's opinion on the darkside, cannot motivate a team and has no tactics or gameplan. Look at the countless threads on this forum from earlier this season you wally!

You have had 10 years in SL, it is a long planning process for sure, but your team has gone backwards over the past 2-3 years.

Standee

No nerve has been hit at all. I thought the whole point of these forums was to discuss all these sorts of issues.

I am not privy to the reasons why the HKR accounts have been filed late but if you can find proof to back up your call, please let me know as it would be interesting to know the true position of the club.

TIA'"


Provide proof of all your claims and I'm sure Standee will look into providing proof of his.

m'kay.

failing that, stop demanding stuff. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: robinho "Mr BJ

The training ground has been rejected, so back to square one with that one. It certainly won't be built overnight you wally!'"


Rejected? No, the Uni changed their mind because of economics, we could end up back at Boulevard, a far cry from leaving Salt End for non-payment.

Quote: robinho "You can blame your board for paying Crocker for months and months without any return. They should have been looking at alternatives at the first hint of changes to the VISA rules (like any pro-active board would) you wally!!'"


You have evidence we paid him anything at all, considering he signed for someone else as soon as it becamse clear he wasn't coming, what we should have done is lobbied for a dispensation I guess.

Quote: robinho "There are still hundreds of fans who don't like Fridays, I know quite a few who simply can't make it due to work commitments etc., so that's presumably the reason for giving away freebies at the end of last year. A colleague of mine had already paid to see this game through his season ticket, so felt ripped off (as did most of your pass holders) at this decision, you wally!'"


But the corporates love it, income is increased, we haven't got £330K to find, or need a fans membership scheme to improve cashflow. Given the performances on the field the freebies were inevitable, if your colleage felt ripped off then he is one of few, it's business.

Quote: robinho "You have a coach that, judging from most people's opinion on the darkside, cannot motivate a team and has no tactics or gameplan. Look at the countless threads on this forum from earlier this season you wally!'"


You're right, but we also had some very bad apples making the barrel rotten, we shall see. What we don't have is a coach who touted himself around every other SL club looking for £1m over three seasons, or who has some questionable social habits, trashes hotel rooms, and is thick enough to drive through opposition fans after a semi final game.

Quote: robinho "You have had 10 years in SL, it is a long planning process for sure, but your team has gone backwards over the past 2-3 years. '"


Indeed we have, but we lost a player poached by the ambulance chaser, lost key players with awful injuries and medical problems, it's also a lot easier to go backwards once you've won a Challenge Cup and appeared in a Grand Final, it's harder when you've not even won a playoff game and got there by bending every rule in the book.

Quote: robinho "
Standee

No nerve has been hit at all. I thought the whole point of these forums was to discuss all these sorts of issues.'"


Not my quote, so why direct the reply at me?

Quote: robinho "I am not privy to the reasons why the HKR accounts have been filed late but if you can find proof to back up your call, please let me know as it would be interesting to know the true position of the club.'"


We've been warning you about the perilous state of your finances, I've even been banned by GML for posting about it, regardless of the truth I spoke, shame your fans were so busy crowing about having a million supporters and a team that would walk to Old Trafford.

I'll take out situation over yours, any time, any day. We have a great stadium, 50% more season pass holders, 50% more fans and a grade A liscence, money in the bank and solid plans for the next few years.

You have a dump, in a shambles part of Hull, a decent squad built of dispensation players and other peoples academy stars, comparative futures, our is better, we also know what it takes to win important games, which will be even more the case when our players arrive in November.

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Quote: Standee "Rejected? No, the Uni changed their mind because of economics, we could end up back at Boulevard, a far cry from leaving Salt End for non-payment.



You have evidence we paid him anything at all, considering he signed for someone else as soon as it becamse clear he wasn't coming, what we should have done is lobbied for a dispensation I guess.



But the corporates love it, income is increased, we haven't got £330K to find, or need a fans membership scheme to improve cashflow. Given the performances on the field the freebies were inevitable, if your colleage felt ripped off then he is one of few, it's business.



You're right, but we also had some very bad apples making the barrel rotten, we shall see. What we don't have is a coach who touted himself around every other SL club looking for £1m over three seasons, or who has some questionable social habits, trashes hotel rooms, and is thick enough to drive through opposition fans after a semi final game.



Indeed we have, but we lost a player poached by the ambulance chaser, lost key players with awful injuries and medical problems, it's also a lot easier to go backwards once you've won a Challenge Cup and appeared in a Grand Final, it's harder when you've not even won a playoff game and got there by bending every rule in the book.



Not my quote, so why direct the reply at me?



We've been warning you about the perilous state of your finances, I've even been banned by GML for posting about it, regardless of the truth I spoke, shame your fans were so busy crowing about having a million supporters and a team that would walk to Old Trafford.

I'll take out situation over yours, any time, any day. We have a great stadium, 50% more season pass holders, 50% more fans and a grade A liscence, money in the bank and solid plans for the next few years.

You have a dump, in a shambles part of Hull, a decent squad built of dispensation players and other peoples academy stars, comparative futures, our is better, we also know what it takes to win important games, which will be even more the case when our players arrive in November.'"



Top post Martin....you have managed to own and make him him your Bitch in 1 post.

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Quote: fc baldy "Top post Martin....you have managed to own and make him him your Bitch in 1 post.'"


What he said. The definition of ownage, I believe. icon_lol.gif

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Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
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Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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