the thing with Thorman is he's usless at everything

Matt Head for example, was so injured he coulden't train, wasn't the fastest, and had to be moved to the centres because his defence was so bad...but crucially he had a good attacking game, so we could see what he contributed to the team.

Thorman manages to be unable to defend well, be slow and offer nothing in attack. He makes no contribution what so ever.

No matter who you have playing at 7, nobody would be good in this team. Nobody can do anything without runners and options.

There was a point during the game were I got slightly annoyed after Thorman missed yet another tackle and yelled: "For God's sake Thorman! You can't pass, you can't kick, and you can't tackle! Why the hell are you a rugby player?!" so I know exactly what you mean!

Yet he still keeps getting picked. There was a point were he actually made a few yards in one run, and I turned around to my brother and said "oh look, Thorman actually did something alright there", then turned around and he'd knocked on trying to get back up.

But this is what happens if you keep playing players that aren't in form, expecting them to suddenly turn it around. This is why I can't understand the people that thought we should have persisted with Craig Hall. Hall might come back from Widnes a much more confident player now, whereas if we'd have kept playing him we'd have had another Thorman.

CLANG!

Thorman isn't even looking for the options, and any slight hope of a fast attack is killed off when he gets the ball and plods sideways.

and whilst it would be hard for Andrew Johns in his prime to be a success in this team, Thorman could be alleviating the pressure by at least having a good kicking game and allowing us to make meters that way

since berro has moved to 7, he has realised is only option is to run with it. He is a world class player, and he must get very frustrated.

Did he mouth 'i dont care what you say, i'll still be in the 17 every week'

i thik he was having a moan about club rovers

i bet he mouthed " agar,why have you got your mate to embarrass me infront of the fc faithful, you foooking w@nker"

could also have said.." sharpy,what the fooks going on, i thought you said you'd sort me out a right good deal at the fc? you lying shiite o"

I think what he did was tell the Hull Fc fans a joke to cheer them up. I think the joke went like this.

Whats the difference between a Kangaroo and a Kangeroot.........A kangeroo is a marsupial and the others a useless Geordie stuck in a lift...