well I don't think "fans" that sit there and slate the team are owed fook all! All we ask for is commitment to the cause like the "real" supporters give. And to be fair we got that! I spend more in asda every year than I do at fc, don't really think there staff owe me anything though!

I will alway love the Black and White but i pay my money and if i feel that they've done something wrong i shout out.
I understand what you mean about the moaner's on there backs just for running out but that's life may i suggest ear plugs next time!!

You usually find that people like that are the first to stop going when times get difficult.Saw some absolute cr-- in the 60s and 70s and i still see people who supported them through those bad times supporting them now.Well said, and your sentiments are probably endorsed by many supporters.

Yup. If they cant take critscism when they are playing bad they shouldnt be professional sports people.

I didn't go last night for quite a few reasons, i have a season pass as do the rest of my family.
The main reasons for not going are on top of my season pass is, it would of cost me about another £40 to attend the match last night as well as trying to rush home from work, drive to hull and take my daughter to my mothers house, and then catch the park and ride. Plus then when i get to the ground i have to sit near some foul mouth idiots who obviously don't watch the game because they are always shouting at the wrong player.
Frankly they are quite embarassing.
And also the tosh that is served up on the pitch.
So i saved myself £40 (which could be better spent) didn't have to rush around and sit and listen to a bunch of idiots, and watch a load of rubbish on the pitch.
The way i see it is the clubs had my money from my season pass so i have contributed more to the club by chosing not to attend last night, than those people that got in for free.

A bit of an over exageration there isn't it? A few fans who moan (and they do moan constantly) doesn't constitute 11k+ fans moaning...i'd be very suprised if these few individuals can be heard by the players

You'll notice that when the players show the effort or a piece of good play the fans get behind them, the sad thing is this year (and last) those occassions have been few and far between...particularly at home.

It always amuses me when I hear the manufactured spins such as 'in any kind of weather' and 'keep the faith', its as if people have been brainwashed.

I do agree though that when people are watching the team they should be supporting them. I hate to hear the verbal abuse that gets dished out at games and on here and especially booing at games but a minority of fans on here and we have to remember we are only a very small minority on here and its never going to change.

And all us none 'real' supporters ask for is commitment from the club, we don't just stand and applaud any pile of cr4p just because they're our team. Get 'real' FFS!

I don't think people go and moan just for the sake of it. I think they are concerned about the club and want to see something change because clearly something isn't right at present. By moaning these people are trying to be heard and are trying to force a change which, in the long run would be good for the club. So, I would argue that the moaners are more 'real' fans than those with the blinkers on.

Here we go with the "real" fans garbage again.

I know, it's all total rubbish and very primary school. I was trying to point out a counter arguement to the point of this pointless thread.

In house fighting............It's a wonderful thing isn't it.

People pay they money they have a right to moan and shut ..for 79 minutes I was shouting back up the man with the ball ..We did it ONCE and M Tony scored ..Has a team we are NOT doing the simple thing right ..Young kids back up better .. Its no good having a ball player if nobody is going to his Left/Right for him to off load ..The little simple thing done right win you games ..Last night we had enough ball to have put the game to bed before halftime