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| Quote: Wollagong Way "I said it when Peter Sharp went...Agar and the rest should have followed. The problems lie with the coaching set up and the CULTURE of the club, a shake up from top to bottom is needed!
Clubs like Saints and Leeds can change coaches but they are always at the right end of the comp when it matters. Why? because they have a winning mentality and a will to win at whatever cost.....we don't and that i'm afraid will never change until the club appoint the right coach...a winner who commands respect and settles for nothing less than 100% commitment and effort!'"
what was even more baffling about Agar's appointment was how quick they made it permanent
he had one game against Saints as temporary coach, which admittedly was an improved Hull display...then they give him a 3 year deal! they should have made him prove himself for a few months, whilst seeing who else was available
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| Quote: Wollagong Way "I said it when Peter Sharp went...Agar and the rest should have followed. The problems lie with the coaching set up and the CULTURE of the club, a shake up from top to bottom is needed!
Clubs like Saints and Leeds can change coaches but they are always at the right end of the comp when it matters. Why? because they have a winning mentality and a will to win at whatever cost.....we don't and that i'm afraid will never change until the club appoint the right coach...a winner who commands respect and settles for nothing less than 100% commitment and effort!'"
they spend money on the right things
when Tony Smith and Daniel Anderson left you didn't see Leeds and Saints gambling on an untested coach...they brought in the NZ coach and Potter who'd built a top3 side from almost scratch.
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| Did anyone listen to Agar on Humberside, post match, is he a coach? Does he have any leadership? When asked what he was going to do he said he didn't know. The team are all hard workers and try their best but if Agar can't help them create ideas or get motivated there is no hope.
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It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One[/i:10za56ci]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6505.jpg |
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| Quote: 60532 "Did anyone listen to Agar on Humberside, post match, is he a coach? Does he have any leadership? When asked what he was going to do he said he didn't know. The team are all hard workers and try their best but if Agar can't help them create ideas or get motivated there is no hope.'"
I listened to the KCFM interview. He was equally clueless on that one.
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| Quote: Ovid "He is already. It's no coincidence we're playing like last year's Huddersfield team.'"
I've seen similar comments to this before on here and I don't understand TBH. We're playing almost exactly like ourselves last year, or have people erased that painful memory?
IMO Agar has pretty much continued as Peter Sharp left off, so to try and palm off the blame on Jon Sharp is a strange one.
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| The interview got right up my nose with all his coffee slurping antics
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| Quote: UllFC "what was even more baffling about Agar's appointment was how quick they made it permanent
he had one game against Saints as temporary coach, which admittedly was an improved Hull display...then they give him a 3 year deal! they should have made him prove himself for a few months, whilst seeing who else was available'"
I was told that Warrington expressed a bit of interest so Hull kind of panicked into getting him tied up. It was certainly a strange length of deal though.
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| Hull should have gone for Potter, Murray or Folkes...pushed the boat out! I'm all for succession planning and the grooming of coaches but to do that you have to have to get the club culture and ethos right!
If you teach mediocrity and averageness then that is what you develop, it happened with Kear, now Agar and as we all suspect more than likely Sharp (if Agar goes). '" ]
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| Quote: carl_spackler "IMO Agar has pretty much continued as Peter Sharp left off'"
As some of us suggested he would, only to be shouted down.
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| Quote: Kosh "As some of us suggested he would, only to be shouted down.'"
Unless something changed unannounced, Agar was the attacking coach during Sharp's tenure and remains so. Given that, it's hardly surprising that we don't look any more likely to score than we did last season.
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| Quote: Kosh "As some of us suggested he would, only to be shouted down.'"
Absolutely. And those of us who also saw some areas for for concern even when we won at the start of the season were told to stop moaning and look at the table. Then when the wheels started to come off we were told not to knee-jerk, have a bit of patience and faith and we'd be alright.
Not panning out great ATM.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "Unless something changed unannounced, Agar was the attacking coach during Sharp's tenure and remains so. Given that, it's hardly surprising that we don't look any more likely to score than we did last season.'"
A thought. I wonder what proportion of our salary bill goes on backs/halves as opposed to forwards. I wouldn't be surprised if we spent the smallest proportion on backs/halves of any club in the competition.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "If we lose next week I reckon sharpe will be in control by the following Monday'"
You may well be correct, and its obvious who would be put in charge, John Sharp.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I was told that Warrington expressed a bit of interest so Hull kind of panicked into getting him tied up. It was certainly a strange length of deal though.'"
doesn't surprise me theyre another club who really should be doing better, though they have finally got round to hiring a good coach in Tony Smith, but its taken them years to get such a big thing right
and i agree people are putting the blame on Jon Sharp too much (even though i will be disgusted if they hand him the job) as Agar would have been heavily involved in the awful displays Peter Sharps side were dishing up as well
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "A thought. I wonder what proportion of our salary bill goes on backs/halves as opposed to forwards. I wouldn't be surprised if we spent the smallest proportion on backs/halves of any club in the competition.'"
everything the club does is baffling, i bet they've been out scouting for more 'hard working' 2nd rowers to join us
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