Totally agree. I don't think I made the point very well in my post, but you're exactly right. It's the fact he doesn't look to get the ball and take charge, not just that we don't look to involve him.

Brough was rubbish, his goal kicking was off too. Wakefield werent great overall as Easter had taken its toll, was a very slow game. Drew turned it on for 10mins and won it for them.

Horne is a good player, but he can't kick and doesn't create much so wouldn't have addressed our biggest problems really

But he has that step near the line, usually worth a try a game, shame he was missing, and as for Danny Houghton sat in the stands, baffles me.

ATM he's kicking better than Thorman.

There is unrest in the camp, half the team think they are playing well and don't agree with the coaching staff about what they are doing wrong.

Thorman is a waste of space. He seems more interested in playing hide and seek, but unfortunately there is no place to hide on a rugby pitch and he is getting found out week after week.

Last night was another night that was crying out for him to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and try and win it for us. The guy did not even try. He is happy for other people to take the responsibility of leading the team around the paddock and seems to have very little interest or desire in becoming a key player for us. This season we have seen Tim Smith, Brent Sherwin, Michael Dobson and now Brad Drew all come to the KC and direct their teams around the park and play Thorman off the pitch. All he cotributes is missed tackles and poor kicks more often than not.

If I was Agar I would be sending a video of all Thormans kicks from this season to every aussie rules team. I am sure it would only be a matter of time before the Essondon Bombers took him off our hand as he is capable of kicking a perfect mark every time.

I was disgusted at his attitude at the end of the game when he seemingly just stromed off the pitch, I was ready and waiting in the south stand to give him a piece of my mind.