Risk taking needs to be calculated. Unfortunately when your scrum half decides to kick on teh first tackle having just been given 6 more, on their line with a minute to go and youy are trailing by 4, there is not a great deal you can do!

It's not our style of play that's the problem.

It's the lack of commitment and enthusiasm shown by the players.

IF we had dummy runners, players backing up and players running with such force they could try and offload then the style of play wouldn't be an issue

The one way we could change is to get our forwards to offload the ball a lot more and the backs too.

Leeds are not the best attacking side around but they continually offload the ball until that 2nd/3rd phase of possession results in enough space to work out a try.

Simply offloading the football would make a huge difference to us aswell as supporting the man with the ball everytime! Using some angled runs now and again would be a good idea too, one man rugby can be effective if the ball is timed right and the angle is good.

Surely all of this is a coaching style of play issue? I agree with it btw but why cant dont the coaches encourage it. It cant be that we have bad players who are incapable of doing it. To the poster that said about S Mcrae not playing expansive rugby and us not needing a 7. If thats case give me his team over the expanded version we currently have!

All of our forwards never look to offload because they know instinctively that there will be no support following them!!
King used to offload every tackle, now he is a shire horse trundling into tackles and dying!
No kick chase what so ever, absolutely no scramble defence at all
all basic rugby league to me
whole thing is a shambles !!

Dont disagree with that view. I reckon the words "counter attack" need to be re-introduced also. There vis clearly mush wrong with the current state of affairs. I really do think the whole playing ethos needs looking at. Red, amber and green zones have much to answer for. If we actually looked like we had an idea in the green zone it would help. Back on the scrum half issue, we need a Burrows or similar though I know they dont come around very often.

Rose tinted!!

Manu is the only forwad who consistantly looks to offload.

Moa got into a couple of great positions to off load only to find no one backing up. The likes of Jon Wilkin / Gareth Ellis would have had a field day.

Our offensive line is horizonal. How cvan we expect to break through when we stand so flat.

the crazy thing was, the 3 time we ran from depth and into gaps, we scored!

Too much head down and run directly at the opposition. No one running angles, no one using anything like a side step.

Thats why I cannot understand the championing of certain players we have when in essence they appear to know very little about the basics of the game.

There is no style. 4 drives and a kick or 5 drives and a kick, even in their 30 isnt good enough.

We shifted it wide once and scored early. We shifted it again and Hall dropped it so we didnt try it again. We seem to be playing safe rugby continually frightened of not completing sets. I'd rather we completed 50% of the sets but tried to score out wide rather than safe forward drives all the game.

And very little play.

No worries all Rovers have to do is make sure the 2 square markers are good tacklers as we like to run strait into those!

I reckon 80% of tackles made on us are within 5 meters of the PTB by square markers. (except when we get the Horne "show n go"icon_wink.gif

I was told by a player last season that the reason we go down the middle is usually to tire big packs out and then exploit them. We dont seem to be tiring them or exploiting them, i would think its more logical to throw it out wide and run the big guys around?

Intheir last few games Salford shipped a boat load of tries on the fringes, so we play them up the middle.

You couldn't make this up.

It's like playing an RL Manager computer gam on the "I'm 5, please let me win" level.

Is it out on PC? where do you get it from?