Is this thread for real? Graeme did ok on Friday there was a hell of a lot worse than him. One loss and all this crap starts.

Yeaman was crap. What is the point in having wingers if we aren't going to utilise their strong points to our advantage.

cant knock his performance at all on friday, 3 tries sums up how he played going forward.

about not passing to calderwood let his partnership develop more with calderwood and in my opinion he is by not passing choosing the right decision. calderwood is best in open space and hasnt that yet. By going himself he isnt risking calderwood being dragged into touch and therefore losing possession.

defensively, very solid and only every had problems on that side due to numbers and therefore team issue rather than individual. he played the sliding defence very well and prevented cas having the extra man constantly.

Compare both him and Yeaman to Shenton and Evans from Friday they were a class apart. Better service granted but they hit the ball at pace and ran at the gaps. We struggle to do that.

Didn't G Horne put 3 tries past Shenton ? Don't get me wrong our centres are not the best in my view but on Friday there wasn't much between ours and theirs. Same can be said about the teams as a whole - certainly Cas were not so much better than Hull as some are suggesting. Otherwise the scoreline, and number of tries scored in particular, would have looked much different.

G Horne finished 3 very good tries, but dont let that over shadow the fact that both him and yeamo were poor. No worse than the rest of the team but very poor.

Shenton and Evans caught the ball on the outside shoulder of our centres and made an extra 10-15 metres or so by punching the hole. We looked pedestrian in comparison and seemed to go back to running at the man again.

Shenton was caught out near to his own line by a 2nd rower playing centre who had more power.

Who's making him a scapegoat? Read my posts this morning, ive simply said all 17 were poor including Graeme. My point on here is that we need to look at Cas to see how centres should run IMO.

i think both yeamo and horne get alot of un-necessary criticism on here. i personally believe that both have been quite solid and started the season extremely well.

Centre is one of the most difficult positions to play in and master, and when comparing against other arguabley top centres such gidly, senior and matt king they are a good few years younger.yeamo is 25 and horne is still only 23.

also there are very few top quality centres in superleague, a big problem especially for the england team but thats another matter and getting away from hull fc. I think that the centre pairing we have currently although individually not the best but together when comparing against other teams centres is quite good.

Ive said they both played poor, as did the other 15. Whys that un-necessary?

After Friday's performance, catching it at all would be a start.

un necessary in the sense that he played well and people are picking little flaws which anyone can do to any player if they look hard enough. people only see what they want to see most of the time....