Hopefully Tuime Evans Reynolds back for cup game. Interesting what Hodgson does? As Hodgson said am disappointed but not disheartened

In the first half there were a few sets when I don't think a prop touched the ball which I found odd. I noticed Satae doing more tackling in his first stint then carrying the ball.

5 drives? Jeez! He was doing alot of work in defence was Satae, we need more runs on the board from him.

I know what you mean about JJ. He doesn't let anyone down, but is just 'there'. I'd assume Cator was going to be used to take over his role, but his injury happened.

Happy with the effort in what was a very even game, it really could of gone either way.

Lovodua has been some find, he has the potential to make that number 6 shirt his own the way he’s playing. I also thought Gale did okay, nothing special, but after a disrupted start to his time here he will be fine with a good run of games under his belt.

I will be honest, after the way we ended last season, I had some serious doubts at the start of this year. But credit to the team, sure we’ve not been perfect, and we’ve got a long way to go. But there is clear improvement in not only our style of play, but our application to the game both attacking and defensively. Roll on the Quarter final.

On a side note, how does a stadium in Wigan run out of pies?! Wounded

I said that in the first half Dave, I think I counted 2 carries by Satae in the first half so be curious to know why we employed the tactic of overworking the backs to continually carry the ball as it just drained the tank. Had we used the forwards and had them up in to double figures in carries Wigan even with Field would have struggled to contain our go forward and would have sucked their energy, instead we just did it to ourselves. When Fash and Brown came on they helped get us momentum with their carries and work rate. Thought Sao and Mau were the two for me that really ran it in with intent everytime.

The pack is our biggest strength and against Wigan we should really have used that to our advantage, but we seemingly chose to hamper ourselves and the bench selection another area were we did ourselves no favours and then only playing 16.

I may not watch as much NRL as you, but one of the features I like about it is the speed of the game, and the two referees contribute to this by 'policing' the offside at the PTB. This results, as far as I can see, in teams hardly ever being pinned in their own half for more than a couple of sets.

Agree with all that.

Christ that's really worrying. Great stat though. Did you research it yourself?

Yes. We beat Wigan in the Cup last year and Warrington in the 2020 play offs, of course, but in the weekly rounds since that excellent 50-10 win away at Catalans in June 2019 we have gone, Warrington (at Leeds) L
2021 Warrigton (H) D, Wigan (A) L, Catalans (H) L, Saints (A) L, Saints (H) L, Catalans (A) L, Wigan (H) L
2022 Saints (H) L, Wigan (A) L

Excellent consistency

Impressed. Your research. Not the statistic!

A chance to rectify this over the next few weeks with Warrington and Catalans at home this month then a chance for revenge over Wigan with them visiting the MKM in May.

Think for me that why last night was more disappointing in that we didn't take the opportunity. Though that being said as long as we take lessons from last night we will be better for it as we weren't at our best but were in the game for the full 80 and but for some dumb play and lacking composure at times the game was there for us.

Disappointed but not downhearted.

The NRL 2 referee system changed in 2020 when the season recommenced in May after a Covid19 break.Matches thereafter were officiated by a single referee and this system continues on today.

Hull should be fuming after that. 80% of the performance is there and there is the potential for this Hull team to genuinely challenge this year. But somehow you just don't manage it.

You were the better team against Wigan I thought. They are a bang average side besides Field's pace, they have absolutely nothing in attack and beside Havard and Farrell's industry they don't have a pack either. Yet little moments in the game cost you and most of them are around fitness and composure. Lovodua's 'attempt' on Field for his second try was absolutely pathetic. Field did nothing to earn the break, he stepped well before the line, Lovodua read it and Field effectively gave up, he was bracing for the tackle. Lovodua had his arm around his waist and rather than slap him onto his back, he just let him walk through him. That, combined with Connor's two idiotic passes in the final ten minutes cost you. Even then you were still level. If Hull review the tapes today and see the metres Wigan made in the last two drives up the field for the drop goal attempts they should be ashamed. Wigan made metres far, far too easily. Farrell's run got Wigan about 30 metres up the field again without even doing anything. The Hull defenders were either too tired or too lazy to stop him and happily walked back with him. Just no intensity at all in the last 10 minutes.

Points difference in Super League is a really good indicator of the strength of teams. Hull's is almost identical to Wigan's, yet they are top and you are 5th. They win the scrappy games to get into an artificial position in the table, Hull do the opposite. With Warrington, Hull KR and Leeds bound to improve at some point, you could miss out on the playoffs if you keep doing this.