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| Quote: scarrie "That feels a bit like throwing the baby out with the bath water.
First off, where are we finding 3 new half backs from?
Also, they aren't bad players. You stick Sneyd and/or Connor in that Wigan side and you'd see a difference I have no doubt. It's the way we play that is the fault in my view.
Shaul I am fairly ambivalent about although I do think he has been better since the restart than he has for a fair while.'"
I dont think Connor or Sneyd would enhance any of the top clubs as i dont think they are good enough.
Connor is overhyped and no surprise he has been dropped from the England squad
The game now is about pace and half backs have to take the line on and engage the defence.
Connor has no pace and we know Sneyds big failing is he doesnt commit a defender.
Its no coincidence that Shaul has been better recently as the new rules suit the faster and mobile players.
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| Quote: bonaire "anyone bothered if we dont see him again before he departs?'"
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| Quote: scarrie "That feels a bit like throwing the baby out with the bath water.
First off, where are we finding 3 new half backs from?
Also, they aren't bad players. You stick Sneyd and/or Connor in that Wigan side and you'd see a difference I have no doubt. It's the way we play that is the fault in my view.
Shaul I am fairly ambivalent about although I do think he has been better since the restart than he has for a fair while.'"
You think Sneyd gets anywhere near the top sides? Maloney, Lomax, Widdop/Austin, Hastings - nowhere near. His kicking isn't even as good as it used to be. Look at Wigan today, found gaps between our wingers and full back virtually every time.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "You think Sneyd gets anywhere near the top sides? Maloney, Lomax, Widdop/Austin, Hastings - nowhere near. His kicking isn't even as good as it used to be. Look at Wigan today, found gaps between our wingers and full back virtually every time.'"
Maybe, maybe not but that wasn't really my point. My point was that if you put them in a more well drilled and structured team they would look better than they've done for us recently.
We could make better use of our assets is what I am trying to say. Its also, in my opinion, a more realistic approach than trying to replace the entire spine in the current market.
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| Sneyd is an easy scapegoat when things don’t go right. He never stops trying.
Our squad is unbalanced and the five drives / kick is just too entrenched in our DNA.
When we do try and be expansive, it looks like a load of under eights playing touch. Zero structure.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "Sneyd is an easy scapegoat when things don’t go right. He never stops trying.
Our squad is unbalanced and the five drives / kick is just too entrenched in our DNA.
When we do try and be expansive, it looks like a load of under eights playing touch. Zero structure.'"
This .
Sneyd has his limitations and that is why he isnt an international class player, but thw whole setup and tactics are still wrong.
Club needs a big culture overhaul.
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| Let down in the halves time and time again.
It's no different to when Radders was in charge, both on the field and off it. Same old crap about how we're learning, blah blah blah.
We need a radical overhaul of the coaching set up.
Yes it won't happen this season, but it is imperative we have new blood in place for next year.
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| The answer is so simple
No point in slagging the players off
It’s the coaching set up - Last is so far out of his depth it’s untrue
Didn’t the players say the discipline was back ?
That’s laughable
Best to leave the players as they are - they’re mostly sheep
They need a firm but fair farmer and 2 magnificent border collies to have them disciplined and motivated lol lol
There’s my Analogy
Even now wondering if AP has it in him ?
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| Couldn’t understand AL decision to play Massi & Fash to start, imagine we’re playing a big cup match and we’re up against those two, we would be rubbing our hands.
Satae has looked the business, unfortunately the demise of Bowden, the continued absence of Taylor, and Gaz, and the necessity to persist in playing second string props in big games like these, will always find us out.
The recent game schedule has obviously taken its toll, but schoolboys wouldn’t drop the ball as much as we
do, Connor and Sneyd weren’t allowed much freedom, especially in the first half, as Wigan overpowered us, due to our indiscipline and errors
a game to far for us, Credit the opposition they were outstanding.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "And his friend
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| Any chances I thought we had disappeared when I saw the starting front row. Our pack was dominated from the start, and it was game over 15 minutes in.
Sometimes you see green shoots of recovery like last weeks game, then we look a million miles away the week after.
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| Halfbacks always struggle behind a beaten pack, having 4 or 5 forwards missing won't have helped.
Also, take out the 3 players who can can create/score from nothing (Shaul, Ratu and Albert), then the writing was always on the wall.
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| The decision to start with Fash and Matongo was shocking in my mind. A sackable offense.
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| Fonua signing looking like a huge mistake.
Error rate just killing us.
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